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15 day global pass appropriate for this trip?
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15 day consecutive pass seems worth it.

Here’s the itinerary I was thinking of;

Paris (from amsterdam) 4 days
Switzerland 4 days
Verona/Venice 3 days
Prague 4 days
Munich 3 days
Amsterdam 3 days

It will be 21 days total. If I start it during Paris > Switzerland and have it expire right after Munich > Amsterdam ticket, it will cover everything except the very first train (Amsterdam > Paris)

Does this seem like a good idea? Railsaver reccomended 10 days in 2 months, which is more expensive and I still have to buy extra point to point tickets. The only point to point ticket I would have to buy seperate for this 15 day ticket is Amsterdam > Paris, which I’m not sure how much it will cost.


Edit: The reason I want to go consecutive is because for places like Munich, there are cities we MIGHT want to travel to during that time (IE: Fussen, Salzburg) but with that 10 day in 2 month pass we wouldn’t have that option.

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A consecutive day pass usually isn’t the best deal, but if you qualify for a youth pass it might be.   For you, the issue will be cramming all of your travel into 15 consecutive days as you will probably want to use your railpass between Amsterdam and Paris since that’s a very expensive train ride.  Check www.thalys.com to see if you can find a cheap ticket on the day you want to travel.  If you can, then your global pass is probably the best deal.  Otherwise, I would look at a 4 country select pass (France, Switzerland, Germany and Benelux) for 6 days (you get a 7th day free if you buy now) plus point to point tickets in Italy.  Or maybe a 5 country select pass to cover Italy (or Austria, if your route takes you through).  You will need to buy point to point tickets for the portion of your trip that’s in Czech Republic in any case.

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Edit: The reason I want to go consecutive is because for places like Munich, there are cities we MIGHT want to travel to during that time (IE: Fussen, Salzburg) but with that 10 day in 2 month pass we wouldn’t have that option.
  10 days should cover several side trips — which are usually inexpensive enough that you won’t want to use a day of the railpass.

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I do qualify for a youth pass. According to that Thaly’s site, the cheapest ticket for that day is 52 euros.
 
A 15 Day global consecutive pass is: 485
A 4 country 10 (11) day is: 499
 
So they are pretty much even. It’s just a choice of wether I want to pay;
 
A) The Amsterdam > Paris train
 
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B) Italy trains and the Venice > Prague train.

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Why do you need a 10 day pass?  You’ve only got 6 days of rail travel, so the 7 day pass will be plenty.

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Why do you need a 10 day pass?  You’ve only got 6 days of rail travel, so the 7 day pass will be plenty. That’s only $288 and will cover a side trip to Salzburg — a doable day trip from Munich.

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For the long train rides (Venice > Prague, Munich > Amsterdam) we’d be taking overnight trains, and if you leave at 18:00 and go into the next day, doesn’t that count as 2 days though?

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Unless you want to make several connections during the night, you’ll leave after 19:00 so it will only count as 1 day. 
Venice-Prague:  The only direct train leaves at 20:48
Munich-Amsterdam:  The only direct train leaves at 22:42

Look for cheap flights for these long trips — you might find one that’s as cheap as a day of the railpass.

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I was first going to do an itinerary that was mostly flights, but the prices all rose because I waited too long.

Anyway, I didn’t know if you left after 19:00 that it only counts as one day.

But $288? I think it’s more than that. 6+1 days for 4 countries is 375.

I’ll be in Benelux, France, Switzerland, Italy, Czech, Germany. That’s 6.

Would I have to get a 5 country pass and cut one out? (switzerland probably)

(Sorry for all the fast questions, but if I don’t buy it in 2 days i’ll lose that free day on the pass)

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Czech Republic is not covered by a Eurail pass, so you have to buy point to point tickets there.  Trains are cheap, so a pass wouldn’t pay, anyway.

Trains are also relatively cheap in Italy — it’s the reservations (not covered by the railpass) that are expensive there, so it’s usually a toss-up as to whether or not a pass pays.  You don’t have any long trips in Italy, so point to point is probably cheaper.

Trains are expensive in Switzerland and the railpass gives you a discount on scenic railways and a lot of other transportation options, so I wouldn’t cut Switzerland.  Check to see if your routes go through Austria.  If they do. I’d add Austria to the pass and drop Italy.

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Thanks for all the advice. I think i’m going to buy the 5 country in 6+1 days pass.

So if Czech isn’t covered on the eurail, do I have to pay the full fare going from venice > prague direct train if I have italy on the pass?

Railsaver tells me to go Venice > Tarvisio > Summerau > Prague.

That doesn’t really sound possible as an overnight train. Like… Hop out at 3 in the morning and purchase a point to point ticket?

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So if Czech isn’t covered on the eurail, do I have to pay the full fare going from venice > prague direct train if I have italy on the pass?
  You just need to buy a ticket from the Czech border to Prague which you can buy at any major train station in Europe.  If you show your railpass and write time and date of the train you want to take and the names of the border crossing town(s), you should have little trouble explaining what you need to the ticket agent in Venice.

The direct train crosses the Italian/Austrian border at Tarvisio and the Austrain/Czech border at Summerau.  The Tarvisio to Summerau ticket is probably more expensive than a day of your rail pass while the Venice to Tarvisio ticket (and any other tickets you’ll need in Italy) are probably cheaper than a day of the railpass which is why I recommend your pass cover Austria instead of Italy — but maybe having an extra day to use in Italy makes covering Italy a better deal.

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Oh okay, I didn’t know you could buy them from any major train station in europe. The railpass said to put austria down instead of italy as well.

Thanks! I’m gonna buy the pass tomorrow so I get that extra day.