As the title suggests, I’m planning a pretty lengthy trip to (mostly) Europe for next year. Vintage (grape harvest for wine) around here is a nice earner, so I will have up to $20,000 for when I leave. If I end up staying in Australia long enough to go to the Splendour in the Grass festival, I’ll be heading off around autumn.
I want to go to Portland, Oregon for a few weeks to stay with some family friends before heading off through Canada to Europe. I’d like to get a working holiday visa on mainland Europe, depending on the difficulty of getting a visa, but later on I plan to have an extended stay in the UK with trips to other countries every now and then. I also have, for some strange reason, a fascination with Scandinavia, so I would like to spend a few weeks travelling around there.
Finally, thanks to my Pommy (ex) grandpa, I can apply for a UK ancestors visa which will allow me to work in the UK, and I also have a few relatives and family friends (from my Dad’s Eurotrip 25 years ago) that I can stay with for a while.
So, if you’ve got this far without getting sick of me prattling on, is $16k > $20k enough for a lengthy stay (6 months plus) reasonable, and indeed, are my rough plans so far up to scratch?

You should be able to last about 5-6 months if you don’t party too much.
Scandinavia is supposed to be pricey, though.
5-6 months? That’s great!
I was thinking that by the time Splendour rolls around I might have pissed away too much of my income on various things. Then it dawned on me, why not just see if those I was planning to go to Splendour with could come with me to Roskilde instead!
I’ve asked and so far one of my friends on board, incidentally his mother is also a travel agent, which is quite handy.
So, depending on when vintage usually ends, it gives me roughly a month for the US and Canada before Europe and Roskilde. I’ll have to figure out a more detailed itinerary, but I’ve got enough time.
Edit: My father confirmed my estimates, and based on some really wonderful photographs of various places (I might post a couple on this thread if I end up scanning them), I’ve fleshed out my itinerary somewhat.
I think we will leave 5 weeks before Rosskilde. Over a month for the US and Canada really seems too much considering where I want to go before Rosskilde, I think two and a half weeks seems good.
Melbourne to Vancouver (a few days stay),
Vancouver to Portland (a week or so stay to catch up with family friends)
Portland to New York (few days stay)
While I have little interest for the big US cities a token stopover in New York for my travel buddy seems on the cards. I figure a little bit of leeway with NY, and he will let me go see some steam trains in Britain (I never grew out of liking trains).
After New York comes east coast Canada, though where exactly I don’t know ( I’d love some advice on where in Canada, and other places in the U.S. to go to).
Then comes the road to Roskilde. A flight to London and a few days there with rellies, before the train to Paris. Spend a couple of days there before Belgium (good beer!) Amsterdam, Hamburg and Copenhagen with a few days in each. That should bring us to Roskilde and after the festival Norway, Sweden and Finland. Then back to Britain for some work and some relatively relaxing times catching up with more rellies.
Beyond that, hopefully some other music festivals, the obligatory Oktoberfest (more good beer!) and maybe New Years in Prague.
Hopefully that isn’t too long winded. I’d really like some suggestions about good destinations!
Thanks!
Well hello! Well if your looking for things to do in Portland Oregon all you gotta do is ask. I live in Vancouver Washington (so about fifteen minutes away from portland). Here is a rather brief list of some things I think everyone who visits the area should see.
1. Go to Mt. St Helens and either go to the visiting center, or climb it, the climb is an all day kind of thing and anyone can do it in late summer. The visiting center has a great view and has tons of really cool information.
2. Explore the shanghai tunnels of the Portland underground, check them out on google.
3. Go for a hike in the gorge, for example beacon rock.
4. Mt hood
5. the lucky Labrador pub
6. Visit ollalie lake.
7. Go to St cupcake in downtown portland, and go to coffee time to wash it all down.
There are a ton of cool things to do in and around portland. What type of ideas are you looking for? city life? Or nature?
Well hello! Well if your looking for things to do in Portland Oregon all you gotta do is ask. I live in Vancouver Washington (so about fifteen minutes away from portland). Here is a rather brief list of some things I think everyone who visits the area should see.
1. Go to Mt. St Helens and either go to the visiting center, or climb it, the climb is an all day kind of thing and anyone can do it in late summer. The visiting center has a great view and has tons of really cool information.
2. Explore the shanghai tunnels of the Portland underground, check them out on google.
3. Go for a hike in the gorge, for example beacon rock.
4. Mt hood
5. the lucky Labrador pub
6. Visit ollalie lake.
7. Go to St cupcake in downtown portland, and go to coffee time to wash it all down.
There are a ton of cool things to do in and around portland. What type of ideas are you looking for? city life? Or nature?
Oh, all sorts really, though getting a feel of the surrounding countryside would be good. Mt. St. Helens sounds fantastic, and so do the shanghai tunnels. I figure I’ll be able to do a fair bit of both city and outdoors stuff while I’m there.
One thing I really want to know is what music festivals are good to go to? I’m a bit of a festival junkie at home so I’d like to do a few of the good European ones while I’m there.
Hmmm….. Roskilde tickets go on sale at the start of December, and i think it’s just too early to see if I can go or not- It might just be a safer bet to go after vintage in ’10, that way I know I can stay for a long while and not worry too much about my finances.
This is a bit disappointing, but also exciting- I can go a lot longer with another years worth of money, and it might even be able to set myself up to work in GB for the length of my visa.
double postSweet Jesus, 20 grand? Lucky bastard
New York and Boston in the US for sure, and Montréal, Québec City, and Toronto in Canada are the basics. Niagara Falls should be a day-trip from Toronto. Williamsburg is a very good side-trip from Washington. Philadelphia’s old quarter is worth a look; Vermont, Upstate New York, and the Pennsylvania countryside are perfect for autumn. If you have more time, I highly suggest Charleston (South Carolina); Savannah (Georgia) is also worth a look. If you’d like to visit Florida: skip Orlando and head to Miami’s South Beach (you may especially like the Winter Music Conference in late March) and Key West. If it’s summertime, maybe whale-watching in Tadoussac (Québec province, Canada), maybe the coast of New England, and maybe swing by Chicago for a taste of the urban Midwest. There’s lots more ideas we can discuss if you wanna take it to the “Rest of the World” section.
Well, yes. That was the upper end of what I can earn over vintage. Though now the Aussie dollar has slumped from near parity with the USD to somewhere around 67 cents it isn’t that flash anymore.
All good ideas, and I might pop over to the rest of the world, so to speak. Though I’m still not all that excited about New York!
Secondly, I’ve started planning my trip to Europe in a bit more detail, but there’s a few gaps in Scandinavia where I’m not quite sure where to go in particular. Any ideas?
Cities = Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, Helsinki. Some day I plan on riding a train over the Jotunheim mountains in Norway to the coast, and taking various ships down the coast, spending nights along the way. Maybe if I had 20k dollars

That’s an idea, I am a bit of a train nut. The rest of the bit might pricey though. If I had more time in the US/Canada I’d love to take a train along the rockies in autumn. Maybe if i have any money left after Europe I could go back to catch up with the family friends again (I’m sure dad would like too see Mark again, so maybe I could convince him to save for a trip? It’d be much easier to save for one without me there to mooch off of him).
If anyone has any suggestion on the railway front, I’d appreciate it.
Another thing is that Oslo Copenhagen, Stockholm and Helsinki were already on my list (I should have said). what I was looking for were other bits that aren’t quite so obvious. For example, Dad has some photos of Trondheim that piqued my interest, as well as some photographs of the landscape north of the Arctic Circle that I wanted to see myself. So if you have any ideas there, that’d be great.
Thanks for your input so far!
James.