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8 Days - 1500 - 2200 Bucks - Starting in Amsterdam
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Word up peeps,

So, I am off to Europe this year.

I will be flying into Amsterdam September 28th, YVR-AMS with Air Transat.
October 9th, I’ll be flying from AMS-LHR with British Airways.
I will then be flying home from London Gatwick on October 12th, LGW-YVR with Air Transat.

I am busy in Amsterdam from the 29th-2nd, and I have to be in London to meet with my sister and see a Radiohead concert on the 9th of October.

Here’s the thing, I’ve got the 2nd-9th to kill. And about $1500-$2200 dollars to spend.

I have been to Europe multiple times before, have traveled extensively in France/Holland/Belgium,Germany/Austria/Czech Republic/Slovakia and Italy. I have no interest in Spain or Portugal at this time.

The issue is, I’m a travel agent. I plan trips for people most often “On” the beaten path. In a weird way, this has handicapped me. When trying to plan this extra 7 days, I keep thinking of classic things that people do…. and I am really not game for anything that involves me swimming through a sea of tourists who all think they are doing a unique experience when in reality, they are seeing what europe wants them to see.

So, all of that said,

My ideas are as follows (only one of the following options)

1. Fly from AMS-DBV and spend some time in Croatia. Weather will be significantly better here than the rest of Europe, and I’ve never been to Croatia before, so I figured now was the time. Also, Croatia is still cheaper than many other options once you get there. I can obtain a KLM ticket that will get me there for about 300 bucks.

2. Estonia/Latvia, Never been to this part of Europe, I hear the people are amazing, and I’ve always wanted to see the forests of Estonia. Costs are low here, and I can get there for about 300 bucks via KLM also.

3. Sweden, Significantly more expensive option due to local costs. I am a HUGE hockey fan, and would plan on seeing a few Swedish Elite league games. Destinations I’d have in mind would be Stockholm, Ornskoldsvik and Osthammar.

4. More Netherlands, followed by a stop in Yorkshire England to see family. I was thinking of going to The Hague, because I’ve never been, Then making my way to Rotterdam, taking the P&O from there to Hull UK, followed by around 3 days with family in Burton Fleming UK. This option is probably the easiest itinerary to accommodate.

So, the reason I am reaching out is this. I want to know what YOU would do.

I am looking for off the beaten path ideas, hopefully that somehow incorporate some Euro-Hockey action (anywhere), or some time in quiet towns that perhaps aren’t normally explored.

I am thinking if someone had some ideas of things they did that were really not-touristy when you were there last, or some modifications to my already thought-out options.

Have fun, spend my 2200 dollars for me! Starting in Amsterdam, but really all of europe is open to me, as I will be flying wherever I go. I am 29 years old, so I’m not a kid, but I’m not old either. I am willing to consider super-party options, as well as quieter more cultural stuff.

A couple of further criteria of things I am NOT interested in:

Guided tours or Cruises
Touristy crap that everyone does
Greece/Spain/Portugal/Morocco/France/Switzerland

Things that I AM interested in:

Small towns, culture and people who don’t speak any English.
Hockey
Sporting events and concerts
Crazy stuff off the beaten path

Cheers folks!

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One thing you could do is fly AMS>DBV, spend time in Dubrovnik and add day or overnight trips to Montenegro, Bosnia, Serbia.

I’d be tempted to visit Estonia/Latvia. The weather would probably still be pretty nice, with fewer tourists because students/kids are back at school.

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1. Great idea. Remember that the ferry lines generally switch to winter schedules around September 15 which may make getting around Croatia a little more difficult. Check our cheap flights forum for cheaper ways to get there. Among other options, the $99 flight pass from www.europebyair.com is honored on some Air Croatia flights.

2. Another great idea. Weather probably won’t be as good as Croatia. Again, ferries are one of the ways you get around the Baltics, so check to see that transportation logistics work out when it’s no longer summer high season. I would think you could get there for less than $300 with some help from our “cheap flights” forum . I think Air Baltic is running a sale right now. Also, getting between Estonia and Latvia is not as fast or easy as it appears on the map. Check train, bus and ferry schedules before you decide on this option.

3. As you say, more expensive than the other options, but maybe less travel time. I think you can ferry from Stockholm to Riga, Latvia which might add some options. Also overnight ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki puts you in easy reach of Tallinn, Estonia.

4. Obviously shortens the distances and probably the travel time and expense.

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Definitely Dubrovnik, also, a friend tells me Hoorn is very nice if you’re killing time in Netherlands

I am leaving from Mobile, Al with $8000 for 20 days
Amsterdam, Berlin, Munich, Venice, Rome, Paris, London
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Totes McGoats wrote:
I have no interest in Spain or Portugal at this time.

Totes McGoats wrote:

A couple of further criteria of things I am NOT interested in:

Guided tours or Cruises
Touristy crap that everyone does
Greece/Spain/Portugal/Morocco/France/Switzerland

We get it. You hate Southern Europe (and Morocco).

No one was going to suggest countries that you hadn’t mentioned in the first place, unless they were glaringly on your way.

So, relax. A simple “I’m interested in Scandinavia and the Baltics” and “any great daytrips from Stockholm?” would have sufficed.

Totes McGoats wrote:
The issue is, I’m a travel agent.
Totes McGoats wrote:
I have been to Europe multiple times before, have traveled extensively

Not to be a dick, but what do you want from us? I understand your “handicap”, but shouldn’t you know how to do some research?

Also, some popular places, like London’s Madame Tussaud’s Wax Museum, are indeed tourist traps not worth your while. But others, like say the Vatican, are worth visiting. And one nationality’s “off the beaten track” can be another’s tourist trap. You might deal with Canadian customers who want to see Rome and Venice (along with millions of Americans and Japanese), but you might decide to be the “rebel” and head for Italy’s coasts…where you’ll run into millions of Germans. None of them think they’re getting a “unique experience”; they’re just there because Germany’s coasts don’t have reliable beach weather in the summer. Of course, there’s also places where there’s no tourists at all. And I’m just trying to illustrate my points, I’m not directing you to Italy.

Totes McGoats wrote:
So, the reason I am reaching out is this. I want to know what YOU would do.

No, you want us to tell you what YOU would do.

You gave us a very specific itinerary on what you’re looking for, where you want to go, and where you don’t want to go. You’ve already figured it all out. Notice that no one was able to recommend any additional places to visit, aside from Cil’s suggestion to explore the possibility of visiting Montenegro or Bosnia since you’re going to be in coastal Croatia anyways.

So again, what do you want from us? Me…I would bum around on the beaches of Spain, Greece, and France, and take road-trips along a Mediterranean coast that’ll be thronged by tourists from Northern Europe. You…you want to go to Sweden, Estonia, and Latvia, see some hockey games, and explore Scandinavian/Baltic rural areas. You just answered your own questions.

On a final note: the most touristed countries in Europe are: Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Austria, Poland, Croatia, Switzerland, Netherlands, Germany, Britain, and [lying partly in Europe] Turkey. Pretty much anywhere in Scandinavia and the Baltics will be “off the beaten track”. Maybe not-so-much the capital cities like Riga, Copenhagen, and Stockholm, but they won’t exactly be thronged like Paris and Rome either.


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