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We are planning a trip to Europe. After our stay in Amsterdam, we will have one day (full) and the night to spend in a German city, en route to Paris. Any suggestions? We will be leaving Amsterdam early morning by train, make a detour?? and touch on Germany, spend the night and travel by train to Paris the following morning.

We thought Cologne, Bonn? Any suggestions. Maybe a day cruise on the Rhine or a tour of the Rhine Valley?

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I am leaving from amsterdam with $4000 for 25 days
Amsterdam, London, Paris, Barcelona, Venice, Rome, Mýkonos, Istanbul
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You certainly don’t have to go through Germany to get from Amsterdam to Paris. There is a much more direct train line via Brussels that will get you there more quickly. If you just want a day in Germany, then I think you’ve got the right idea with Rhine Valley, Koln, maybe consider Koblenz too. There is a very nice new big hostel in Koln just 1 stop across the river from their main station (1 stop beyond Koln Hbf).

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Other than putting the “Germany” notch on your belt, there’s not much reason to go out of your way to spend only a day in Germany — almost all of which will be spent in transit. Koblenz would probably be a good choice if you really want to do this.

Check flight and train schedules. Your trip is too rushed and you’re covering too much geographic territory for 24 days. While 10 cities in 24 days sometimes works. These 10 cities in 24 days doesn’t.

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Could use your help here. If we leave out a touch of Germany, do you suggest that we cut another city? We would much like to do the following route since we would like to “hit” the big cities. Where should we “cut”:

Arrive London 06:35 from Cape Town South Africa
London: 3 nights
Brussels: 1 night (just to visit a friend en route to Amsterdam)
Amsterdam: 2 nights (train to Paris)
Paris: 3 nights (take Elipsos overnight train to Barcelona)
Barcelona: 3 nights (fly to Venice)
Venice: 3 nights (train to Rome)
Rome: 3 nights (fly to Mykonos)
Mykonos: 2 nights (Fly to Istanbul)
Istanbul: 2 or 3 nights depending on return to Cape Town flight

Any suggestions. Thanks for all the wonderful advice!

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This works — assuming the flight schedules don’t mean the flights kill 3 full days on the bus to the airport, in the airport, on the airplane, on the bus to town. Flights to/from South Africa, 3 intra-European flights, and an overnight train will make an exhausting 24 days, but you’ll live through it.

I would cut one day from Venice (I love the place, but it’s very compact so 2 days there is adequate) and add it to Istanbul. Another option would be to save Barcelona for you next trip and add a stop in central Europe. Or, save Greece and Turkey for your next trip (when you can spend at least a week, preferably 2).

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Thanks for the great advice! Our main objective is to “run” through Europe and see the main sights. In 2 years time we would like to return and visit the place we liked best.

Our flights are into from Cape Town into London Gatwick, early morning 6:35. Then the next flight is from Barcelona (not sure which airport) with Ryan Air to Venice Treviso Airport (not sure how far this is from city centre). The only other flight is from Mykonos to Istanbul Ataturk. Maybe you can suggest alternative airports that are closer to the cities?

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I believe the airports used for both your Venice and Barcelona flights will be quite a distance from the cities, maybe in the neighborhood of 90 minutes. Mykonos is a small island, so the airport can’t be too far — not sure how airport transportation works on an island where most of the transportation is by scooter. I believe Ataturk is the main airport for Istanbul and it’s a relatively easy trip to town, although it’s almost always 45 minutes from any major city to it’s airport.

There are many folks who agree with your whirlwind-the-first-time-and-come-back-to-your-favorites-strategy. I’ve done several trips that ended up being too rushed, and I don’t recommend trying to do northcentral Europe, Spain and Greece/Turkey in one relatively short trip.