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Anybody read "The God Delusion"??
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I haven’t been on here in ages, but am sick as a freakin’ dog and can’t do anything, so oh well..

Anybody read this book? First hundred pages or so were kind of tedious I thought, but then it got a lot better..

ps What’s the name of the other site BTW??

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I didn’t read the book, but did read an interview with Dawkins.
I read somewhere that reading the The God Delusion was an awful lot like watching an ambush-journalism Michael Moore movie, and that is the feeling I got when reading the interview.
He is entertaining, yes, even compelling; it’s certainly not as if I disagree with everything he says.
But there is this arrogant attitude problem lurking there which does not do his cause any good. Cherry-picking facts is something Michael Moore does, and that’s what Dawkins did in the interview. Whenever I see this done, it really makes the person lose credibility with me.


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Hmm.. Probably good I’ve never seen an interview with him then..

I think his intention or mission or whatever is worthy though (even important and necessary…),and that the book is worth a go..

Some of his arguments are a bit shallow, repetitive, maybe even specious – but who’s aren’t?…

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I think his intention or mission or whatever is worthy though (even important and necessary…),and that the book is worth a go..

 
It’s a worthy mission to prove god doesn’t exist? Explain that one.

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Some of his arguments are a bit shallow, repetitive, maybe even specious

 
Sounds like a great read. 
 
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Yes, it is..

Dawkins has explained it bettern than I can. See for yourself: read the book.

I only said some of his arguments were weakish to be diplomatic. Overall the book is very succesful in showing how utterly stupid, insidious, and dangerous religion really is..

I mean, I’ve always had those opinions myself more or less anyway.. Dawkins just does a nice job of delineating and explicating it all.

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I mean, I’ve always had those opinions myself more or less anyway.. Dawkins just does a nice job of delineating and explicating it all.

Sort of like preaching to the choir?
Just teasing.[8D]

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Very funny…. [Smile]

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I only said some of his arguments were weakish to be diplomatic. Overall the book is very succesful in showing how utterly stupid, insidious, and dangerous religion really is..

 
I dunno, you’re doing a pretty good job showing how utterly stupid, insidious, and dangerous athiesm is.
 
Read the Koran. Trust in Allah.  Grow a linebeard.  This is the only path to redemption, all infidels will perish and the streets flow with blood of their first born.

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Hmm.. Hadn’t been here in a long time. Was wondering where everybody went..

Seems clear now..

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What, did you think your insults and blasphemy would be welcome by the (potentially) 2 billion Muslims & Catholics who frequent these boards?

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Nope, didn’t really think about them(but then, those religions hardly have a record of being considerate to those outside their ranks either..)

No, I was referring to something else altogether.

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Nope, didn’t really think about them(but then, those religions hardly have a record of being considerate to those outside their ranks either..)

 
Good and true comeback.  The “Christian” Crusades and recent extremist muslim activities.  I’m not aware of anywhere in a religeous book that it says to forsake those of other religions.  How do you spread the word?
 
In addition: I am going to a “christian” college.  Since I am older, I am ostracized by the “christian” students.  Biggest group of asses that I’ve ever been around.  Be rude in the name of the lord, etc.
 
My friends who are athiest act more christian than the students ever thought about.

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Keeping in mind america has their own brand of christianity that is very far from the church that Peter built.
 
And the crusades happened 1,000 years ago, get over it.

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[sm=rolleyes.gif]..

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http://www.washingto…

I love the “silver bullet” quote…

This is scary and just bizzare to me that a front-line “serious” paper like the Post has so much space devoted to people who believe in virgin births and all the rest – and are willing to give money to these stupid churches to hear more about it and be told what to do with their lives…

http://newsweek.wash…

If Huckabee becomes president I’ll start trying to get German citizenship.. Not that Germany is perfect(FAR from it..), but at least it’s secular… Religion is so bloody stupid – and dangerous…

To think that the US controls such a huge nuclear arsenal, and that so many of the people are so bloody stupid (as to vote for the likes of Bush, to name just one ex..), is easily as terrifying as anything coming out of North Korea, Iran, or wherever…

Yeah yeah, people have been saying that for years, so it’s practically a worn cliche.. But as an expat who doesn’t get home that often, and then to get these occasional glimpses into US “culture” and see how far to the forefront religion has weaseled itself – well, frankly it’s disturbing….

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This is the part that kills me:
On the legal flip side, the NFL’s big-screen ban could end up landing the league in trouble.
John Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, a Charlottesville civil liberties group that focuses on religious freedom issues, is threatening to sue the NFL on behalf of an Alabama church that wants to host a big-screen Super Bowl party. He is also seeking sponsors for federal legislation to exempt churches from the ban.

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 (as to vote for the likes of Bush, to name just one ex..),


Actually Bush lost the election by popular vote.  He got in by electorial votes.

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I know that. But still… 40 million people voted for him – TWICE…..

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Too many followers.  No one stops and thinks that they know nothing about these people but vote for them anyway. 
 
People re-elected out governor because of, among other things, he got Toyota to bring a plant here.  They don’t stop and think that Toyota came because tort reform here limits the amount you can sue for.  You also work at the will of the employer here.  If they don’t like your looks, you can be fired.  Discrimination is the only recourse but you have to prove it.  Another issue is ERISA.  One part is that a self funded company can turn down your disability benefits and you can only sue for lost wages.  No punitive damages which means you can’t get a lawyer to represent you.
 
Probably why we’re almost the worst state in the country to work in.  Bottom two or three.
 
If people tried to learn a little about how things work these politicians wouldn’t be elected.

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Richard Dawkins is awesome. “Cherry picking facts” is just an excuse used by people who disagree with what someone is saying; you could use the same phrase to describe Democrats/Republicans, teachers, church officials, etc.

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I just thought I would check in and see if there were any fellow worshipers of the church of the flying spaghetti monster.

well?

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heh
Those Pastafarians are still around? That was pretty funny.
One of the more vicious anti-Christian sites (IMHO) is Betty Bowers.

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HAHA… I have an FSM fish tee shirt []

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