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Coburg: The cheapest way to get there?
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How do I get to Coburg if I don’t want to pay 50 Euros to go one way from Frankfurt and another 50 back to Frankfurt? That’s the cheapest possibility I could find! I can’t afford this! I’m only and I’m only flying into Germany just to visit my girlfriend in that small little town she lives in! She’s got this Eurail pass thing and all this stuff about paying to speak with the customer service is absolutely driving me nuts! Agh!!! Thanks, I’d appreciate it from the bottom of my heart if anyone would be willing to help me out here. Happy New Year’s celebrations to everyone! Cheers!

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[url=‘http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/english.html’]DB timetable[/url]
From: FRA (for Frankfurt Airport train stations)
To: Coburg

a) You could buy a return ticket in advance. If there is a Sa/Su night between the two legs you can get a discount of 50%. Such a ticket (SparPreis 25/50) is only valid for the choosen connetions.

b) You can travel with local trains. Select at the timetable as means of transport "only local transport" instead of "standard search".

c) like b) using the Bavaria Ticket
The Bavaria Ticket is valid for one day on all local trains in Bavaria. On weekdays however only past 9am.
– buy in Frankfurt a normal ticket to Kahl – the first stop in Bavaria (EUR 6,15)
– buy a Bavaria Ticket Single online (EUR 17,00) from the DB shop or from the conductor in the train (this will add EUR 2-3 service fee).

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You have gotten the best advice – as always – from abalada.

Question for abalada: Are you saying the Bayern ticket is available in the DB shop in Frankfurt airport stations and/or Frankfurt Hbf.? If so, is it also available at other stations outside Bayern?

One more idea. Since your girlfriend in Coburg probably speaks German, you could have her look at www.mitfahrzentrale…., a ride board whereby you contact the ride-offerer and arrange travel costs independently. I looked and it seems like there is some kind of offer between Frankfurt and Coburg nearly every day.

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Thanks so much for the help, guys! I thought I ran out of possibilities! But I’ve another concern regarding transportation if I flew into Munich and went to Coburg and back. I know the distance between these two cities is more further but I figured since both cities are situated in Bavaria, perhaps this way I wouldn’t have to pay the fare to enter the state and instead, saves me the 6,15 and I could hope on one Bavarian train and voila! Right? I just need all the help I could get for a convenient and low-cost trip to Coburg and back home =) My plane will land only in either Frankfurt or Munich. Thanks again!

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If you use the DB timetable that abalada has provided and stipulate "only local transport" as suggested, you will find that the trip will require between 1 and 3 changes of train, depending on your departure time, and approximately 5 hours. But you should be able to use a Bayern Ticket for the entire trip with no additional ticket purchases.

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# Russ
Sorry, I meant the[url=‘https://fahrkarten.bahn.de/shop/jsp/shop/product_list.jsp?GroupId=345’]DB ONLINE Shop[/url]

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From: MUC (for Munich Airport train station)

You can do the whole trip to Coburg on regional trains plus bus on the Bavaria Ticket. The bus to Freising is also covered.
You can buy the Bavaria Ticket Single for EUR 17,00 from the ticket machines at the airport. The DB red/grey ones with touchscreen accept also credit cards.

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This is just a one-way ticket for EUR 17.00, right?

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quote:The Bavaria Ticket is valid for one day on all local trains in Bavaria. On weekdays however only past 9am.

In theory you can travel on this ticket back to Munich on the same day. If you want to travel on another day you’ll need a new Bavaria Ticket.

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I’d like to take advantage of this Bavaria ticket (assuming it’s good for 24 hours) and do a little browsing at different stops between Munich and Coburg. I have e-mailed the folks at German Railway (www.diebahn.com), but they haven’t given me an answer yet. I was wondering if anyone out there has an answer for me? And note I will be riding the train as a Bavarian ticket holder. A million thanks!

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You can make as many stops as you like during the period of validity – All day Sat or Sun, after 9 am M-F. It’s supposedly good til 2 or 3 am the next morning, actually, but very few regional trains travel at that time of the morning.

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Is the Munich railway station at the international airport or must I travel a distance to get there?

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quote:# Dominus~XIII
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From: MUC (for Munich Airport train station)

The airport has its own railway station. The main railway station of Munich is approx. 40 km south of the airport and a detour on the way to Coburg. Just follow the itinerary advices of the DB timetable.

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Abalada, you have a sage mind for Germany like no other. Thank you so much! And so if I take the train from the airport in Munich to Coburg, it would look like this: Munich—->Freising—->Coburg, right?

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Munich Airport —(bus)—> Freising —(train)—> Coburg

The bus to Freising is covered by the Bavaria Ticket.
Think of a clock. Munich main railway station is in the center. The airport is at the one o’clock radial line, Freising on the twelve o’clock radial line. Now you have the choice to travel by train via Munich main railway station fromt the airport to Freising (some 80 km) or to shortcut your journey down to a few km by using the bus for this part.

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Which of the two options, personally, would you take?

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I wanted to ask about one last question (hopefully, enough just to clear everything up) regarding purchasing Bavarian group Laender tickets @ 24,00 EUR in total. So if my buddy and I want to go for this amazing deal, do we just walk about the airport or train station and asking random people if they’d like to tag along, or is there a specific meeting spot for passengers wanting to get a go at this price (which evenly divides into almost 5 EUR/person instead of the regular 17 EUR). Perhaps there’s also an alternative? Thanks so much!

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There are websites for this. You can either check for such deals offered or offer one yourself. This sites are however (of course) in German only. An answer I posted sometime ago:

quote:Mitbahnzentralen (train ticket sharing)
German Rail (DB) offers various rebates for people travelling together. The rebated ticket price is divided by the number of co-travellers.

There is a Meta-Search site wich checks 10 Mitbahnzentralen: www.fahrkartenpartne…
These are e.g. ticket-mitfahrer.de, Bahnfahrzentrale.de, Bahn-Billig.de, Billiger-Bahnfahren.net, Ticket-Teilen.de, TrainTravelTogether.de
fahrkartenpartner.de, ticket-mitfahrer.de and ticket-teilen.de have the most offers.

Some people may think that this is not really 100% legal. Wrong. DB (German Rail) operates their very own
www.bahnmitfahrzentr… which offers the same service.

To find someone for Munich Airport to Coburg is unlikely. Coburg is too small. Nuremberg or Bamberg (on the route) would be better bets. This would work as you have to change train there anyway – in priniple the group has to travel together – but this can only be seen by the conductor in a train. Thus if you change there anyway this will be no problem.

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Alrighty, school’s finally over with and I’ve got the dates sorted out now. I’m to take the die Bahn from Munich to Coburg on Saturday, May 14. I just wanted to ask to see if it is a better and wiser, idea to find some other single-ride passengers who would also be traveling in Bavaria within the given time and spent just a fraction of the 24 EUR or simply or just simply pay the 17 EUR to save me the hassle of looking around like a rat with luggages in hand and spending some time (I’ve got 1 hr. and 47 minutes between plane arrival in Munich and train departure from the Munich Flughafen just to save me some cash. What do you think? Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated.

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Please?

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Come on, Abalada, how about just one more?!

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I would go for the Bavaria Ticket Single.
The chances to find someone going into the same direction on spot are not that good
– there won’t be that many into your direction. Munich is quite central in Bavaria and people may travel onwards to various directions.
– others may use a bus/train departing earlier from the airport (and a single ticket to Munich Hbf is alone EUR 8,80).
– frequent rail users have a BahnCard 50 (50% discount) – they won’t be interested to use local trains
– others may lack the languages skills and/or geographical details to accept your offer/answer your request
– less frequent travellers may well have parked the car at the airport or are collected by relatives/friends. While using the car towards/from Munich is rather nonsense, towards the North of the airport it is more attractive.

It works better to put such an offer/request at the pinboard of the hostel (if there is one). Into the opposite direction it may work. E.g. seeking co-travellers to share ticket from Coburg to Munich/Munich Airport. While from 1st May on you have to write the name of the travellers on the ticket – you don’t have to travel the whole trip together. This is just to stop people from passing the ticket to 3rd persons after their trip (which was anyway never allowed).

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The local train from Frankfurt to Kahl: is it departing from the main station or the airport station? I may have to have to resort to Frankfurt as a last-minute decision if not Munich. So that would cost 23,15 in total [6,15 (normal ticket to Kahl) and 17,00 (Laender ticket to Coburg)], correct? That’s the flat rate I hope. If there a cheaper alternative please slip me in, thank you so much for your help.

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Coming from the airport you have to change at Frankfurt Hbf.
The ticket price to Kahl is the same in both cases.
You can buy this ticket at one of the RMV ticket machines at the airport.
Problem is that you can buy the Bavaria Ticket only in Bavaria.
You could e.g. stop in[url=‘http://www.aschaffenburg.de/wEnglish/start.php’]Aschaffenburg[/url] (same price as to Kahl as in the same zone, just a few stops later), look around, buy the Bavaria Ticket from a ticket machine and take the next train.

Or you can buy the Bavaria Ticket from the conductor, but here you will have to pay the counter price (EUR 19,-) plus a service fee of 10%.

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What difference would it make if I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Kahl rather than taking the train from the airport to Kahl? Where did you get the price of 6,15 from? It cannot be found on the site Thanks!

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What difference would it make if I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Kahl rather than taking the train from the airport to Kahl? Where did you get the price of 6,15 from? It cannot be found on the site Thanks!

There are very few direct local trains to Kahl. In most cases you will have to change at Frankfurt Hbf. It makes no difference at all. Not for the ticket price and not even for the travel time. It’s just that you have to change once (more).

Frankfurt to Kahl is a trip inside the local public transport network of the Greater Frankfurt Area[url=‘http://www.rmv.de’]RMV[/url]. For such a trip the RMV tariff applies – not the DB tariff. Thus you can find the price on the RMV site, there is a menu "Tarifauskunft". But it’s not really easy to use.

The DB tariff is based on distance, with decreasing km prices for longer distances.
RMV (and all other of these local public transport networks) has a tariff system based on tariff zones. Due this the ticket price is the same regardless if you start at Frankfurt Airport or Frankfurt Hbf for travelling to Kahl or Aschaffenburg.

The English pages of the RMV are few and extremely well hidden.
[url=‘http://www.rmv.de/coremedia/generator/RMV/Tarife/Fahrkartenverkauf/Fahrkartenautomat/inhalt_3Den.html’]Here[/url] some info about buying tickets.
[url=‘http://www.vgf-ffm.de/english/fahrkarten_einzelfahrkarten.html’]More[/url] detailed info by the VGF (a member of the RMV, VGF runs e.g. the trams in Frankfurt, while DB provides the S-Bahn and local train service inside the RMV).

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I have booked my flight and am due to arrive in Frankfurt at 7 AM, May 12th, 2005. Say it’ll take me no more than 30 minutes to claim my luggage, etc., what will I do next? May you provide me the steps to getting me out of Frankfurt and into Bavaria, please? Am I able to purchase the Bavaria ticket outside of Bavaria? They’ll have those in Kahl and Aschaffenburg, right? Thanks!

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> Say it’ll take me no more than 30 minutes to claim my luggage, etc., what will I do next? May you provide me the steps to getting me out of Frankfurt and into Bavaria, please?
Go to the Regionalbahnhof (regional railway station) which is in the basement of Terminal 1.
Buy a RMV ticket from a RMV ticket machine to Aschaffenburg.

> Am I able to purchase the Bavaria ticket outside of Bavaria?
Not from the ticket machines. But you can ask for it at the DB service center (counter).
> They’ll have those in Kahl and Aschaffenburg, right?
For sure – both places are already in Bavaria.
[url=‘http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/dn?s=FRA&z=Coburg’]DB timetable[/url]
From: FRA
To: Coburg
and select as means of transport "only local transport" instead of "standard search".
There is a connection Frankfurt Airport dep 08:13 Coburg arr 12:33.

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> There is a connection Frankfurt Airport dep 08:13 Coburg arr 12:33.

Inputing Frankfurt Airport as Point A and Coburg as Point B gives me stops in Wuerzburg or Fuerth. I suppose I should first find the schedule to get from Frankfurt to Aschaffenburg and then find the schedule for the trip from Aschaffenburg to Coburg, is that correct? Thank you!

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I’m having trouble surfing the RMV website (language barrier) but I suppose RMV isn’t affiliated with DB, is that correct? Because when I went to make the two separate searches for Frankfurt to Aschaffenburg and Aschaffenburg to Coburg, I only have 1 minute in between to get off from the RMV transit and make a Bavaria Laender ticket and hop onto the connecting train, which is absolutely absurd. Should I wait another couple of hours and hop onto the next scheduled train? But these are both DB schedules and I was thinking RMV might have different schedules by the looks of it (from what I drew from their website).

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> I’m having trouble surfing the RMV website (language barrier) but I suppose RMV isn’t affiliated with DB, is that correct?
DB is a member of the RMV (every company offering public transport in this region is a memberg).

> Should I wait another couple of hours and hop onto the next scheduled train?
You could try to get the Bavaria Ticket at the DB service center at Frankfurt Airport. Than you don’t have to interrupt your journey at all. Otherwise I’ve recommended Aschaffenburg as it would be more intersting to kill some time there (next local train should be in 1 or 2 hours).

> But these are both DB schedules and I was thinking RMV might have different schedules by the looks of it (from what I drew from their website).
These are basically just different front-ends. The schedules are the same in both timetables.

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Thanks for all your much-needed help, abalada. So let me clarify that it’s 6,15 (+ applicable tariffs – how much would that be?) for the RMV ticket for the train from Frankfurt Flueghafen to the Aschaffenburg HBF and from there to Coburg for 17,00 (purchase ticket before-hand along with the RMV ticket at the airport). Correct?

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RMV ticket from Frankfurt Flughafen to Aschaffenburg Hbf is EUR 6,15 (only available at RMV ticket machines).

The Bavaria Ticket (for Aschaffenburg to Coburg) is EUR 17,00 if you buy it from a ticket machine in Aschaffenburg. If you can get it at the DB counter at Frankfurt Airport it will be EUR 19,00.

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Going back to Frankfurt from Coburg, would I buy my RMV ticket in Coburg or Aschaffenburg (or any stop close to the Hessen-Bayern border)?

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You can buy a RMV ticket only inside the area covered by RMV tickets. Thus not in Coburg, but in Aschaffenburg.
However it does not harm to ask the conductor if you can get this ticket from her/him (i.e. the one in the train from Nuremberg or Würzburg travelling into the RMV area).

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It’s final and confirmed that I’m to arrive in Frankfurt at 11:20 AM on Sunday, May 15th. I’m going to be hanging around for 6 hours until my friend touches up with me at 5:25 PM. My train schedule is as follows: Frankfurt Airport —> Fra Hbf (tief) —> Fra (Main) Hbf —> Wuerzburg Hbf —> Bamberg —> Coburg

Now I’ve been goin’ back and forth on this forum topic and Die Bahn website and as far as regional trains go, I find Laender and Happy-Weekend tickets. I wonder what’s the difference between a Happy Weekend ticket and a Laender ticket with regards to methods of transportation. It seems to me (presumably) that with the Happy Weekend ticket, my friend and I would just spend 28 EUR and go from Franktfurt to Coburg without paying the state-crossing fare (6,15), and having said that, it could save me the RMV ticket fare and Bavarian ticket fare.

If this is not the case, could I get around and within Frankfurt with this ticket? And how long would this ticket last for? How should I kill time make my wait more interesting in Frankfurt for this 6-7 hours? Thanks =)

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> I wonder what’s the difference between a Happy Weekend ticket and a Laender ticket with regards to methods of transportation.

Not much. Both cover local trains (S-Bahn, RB, RE, IRE).
The Länder-Tickets do typically cover more local public transport (trams, buses). E.g. the Bavaria Ticket (a Länder-Ticket) covers trams and buses in Würzburg, the Happy-Weekend-Ticket doesn’t.

>It seems to me (presumably) that with the Happy Weekend ticket, my friend and I would just spend 28 EUR and go from Franktfurt to Coburg without paying the state-crossing fare (6,15), and having said that, it could save me the RMV ticket fare and Bavarian ticket fare.

With TWO persons the Happy-Weekend-Ticket is indeed the better deal.
The price is however EUR 30,- (since mid December 2004).
You also have to list now (since 1st April 2005) the names of the travellers on it. Thus you have to write your name and the name of your friend from begin on onto the ticket. That your friend will join you later is no problem. But it’s not allowed to add names later onto the ticket.

> If this is not the case, could I get around and within Frankfurt with this ticket? And how long would this ticket last for? How should I kill time make my wait more interesting in Frankfurt for this 6-7 hours? Thanks =)

With the Happy-Weekend-Ticket travelling around is no problem. It’s valid in your case from the time of purchase till 3am Monday.

http://www.frankfurt…
http://www.mainz.de

Frankfurt Airport is between Mainz and Frankfurt.
Personally I would recommend Mainz. Frankfurt as a business and shopping city is pretty dead on Sundays.
Tip:[url=‘http://www.mainz.de/WGAPublisher/online/html/default/mkuz-5tadya.en.0’]Museum of Ancient Shipbuilding[/url]
Interesting – and free.