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Just bought my plane tickets! (17 nights)
So im wondering,…… i will be traveling on the train between 4-6 days between the cities of london-paris-amsterdam-(possibly copenhagen)-berlin-prague. For this distance and the days of travel is it advised to buy individual tickets or one of the passes by Eurail? Also, does buying one of the passes cut down on huge hassles when trying to purchase the day of? just want to know all the cost/benefits

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For those countries, a pass will probably save you money — unless you’re willing and able to buy the individual tickets (exact time, date and train) about 60 days in advance and are lucky enough to find specials for the routes you want. Look for prices on the tickets in Germany and that start and end in Germany, here: http://reiseauskunft…

Look at a three country select pass for France, Benelux, Germany. Add Denmark if you want to go there.

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Not to be rude, but figure it out yourself so you will learn.
Look up the sites listed below and read them. They answer most of your FAQ.

What is the cost of each leg of the train rides you plan to take?
Make a list of each leg and write in the price of a one way point-to-point ticket that you have looked up on the booking tab on this site or through www.raileurope.com or www.bahn.de/internat… On the first two sites, you can enter your route and it will sugest what railpass may work for you. If you can’t figure that out, CALL THE 800 NUMBER ON THE SITE AND ASK THE SALES REP WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!

Some of the trains you will take require a seat reservation, just get them in Europe and if your plan is set and you want to stick to it, book your reservations all at once ONLY for the trains that require them to avoid waitng in long lines at every station.

If you are flying roundtrip to London, you may want to look at flying one way from Prague to London to save time on the train and having to use a railpass for those days.
If you purchase a cheap fare on the Eurostar from London Pancras to Paris Nord, you won’t have to start/validate your railpass till the day you depart Paris. In other words, if your trip is 22 days long, you DO NOT need a 21 day Eurail pass. Spend a couple days in London and a couple of days in Paris and at the most you are looking at is a 15-day Eurail pass if you go that route. Now compare the costs of the different raipasses that will work for this trip and compare it to the total of your point-to-point tickets.

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“If you are flying roundtrip to London, you may want to look at flying one way from Prague to London to save time on the train and having to use a railpass for those days.”

pertaining to this, I actually am doing it. I Bought a ticket from prague to london at the end of the trip.

Thanks for the input, and I am seriously considering the france-benelux-germany pass, then just buy individual tickets for the rest.

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For pricing on point to point tickets use the websites of the national railservices of the countries you’ll be traveling in, not raileurope.com or other websites that sell tickets to consumers outside of Europe.

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Can someone please tell me what is the different between booking my eurail pass from

1. www.eurail.com
2. www.raileurope.com

BTW Eurail is cheaper by 200 dollars

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The two sites you’ve mentioned are both travel agencies that sell railpasses. The prices and the passes will probably be exactly the same (or vary by a few dollars due to exchange rates) on both sites. Exactly what pass(es) are you looking at and what are the prices? If you’re finding a $200 difference you probably aren’t comparing apples to apples — like you’re comparing a youth pass to an adult pass or, if you’re buying more than one adult pass you’re comparing a saver pass to a regular pass. All of the same options will be available on both sites. Check shipping costs and the other freebies (the “bonuses” come with the pass and will be the same.”) to see which deal is best for you. One very minor difference is that eurail will probably be slightly cheaper than raileurope for point to point tickets — although in either case they’ll cost about 1/3 more than if you buy them in Europe. Raileurope may be a few dollars cheaper for buying reservations — although by the time you add in shipping and handling either site will be about double what you’d pay in Europe.

Another alternative would be to support our sponsors and buy the the same pass at the same price under the “bookings” tab. Raileurope is a direct competitor to the folks who kindly allow us to answer your questions Eurail is at least part of the same super agency as the folks who sponsor us.

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tjchip22 wrote:

Thanks for the input, and I am seriously considering the france-benelux-germany pass, then just buy individual tickets for the rest.

The rest, if we don’t count a trip to Denmark, is €9.60 standard one-way fare for a Czech segment from Schöna borderpoint (on Berlin line) to Prague.

If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.

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papyr wrote:
tjchip22 wrote:
Thanks for the input, and I am seriously considering the france-benelux-germany pass, then just buy individual tickets for the rest.
The rest, if we don’t count a trip to Denmark, is €9.60 standard one-way fare for a Czech segment from Schöna borderpoint (on Berlin line) to Prague.

Wow that seems extremely cheap. But you say from the Schona borderpoint. Maybe i dont understand this, but why would you buy only part of a ticket or multiple parts from the border on? Do they not sell tickets straight from berlin to prague? By the way, I have only bought eurail tickets within a country(Italy), and I don’t know what these border crossings are like.

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They do sell straight tickets from Berlin to Prague. But I thought you wanted to use your railpass on the German territory. If yes, then the only thing you need is the ticket for the rest of the trip (e.g. Schona-Prague). If you are leaving Berlin with your railpass used up, then you will need to buy the whole ticket Berlin-Prague for €50.60.

If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.

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Oh, right, that makes sense. Thanks for your help!

And to Papyr, while you are still here, from Prague i want to make a side trip to Cesky Krumlov for a day or two then back to Prague where I will catch a flight? How does one get to Cesky Krumlov? Do trains run straight there? Talking to someone else i heard buses and walking were involved. I’m just not quite sure what to expect. And possible price if you happen to know it!

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There are direct buses from Prague to Cesky Krumlov, one way ride costs about 150-180 CZK depending on the carrier (US$ 7.20-8.75), and the trip takes 3 hrs. Trains require one change, travel 4 hrs, and the price without discounts is CZK 250 one way (US$ 12.15).

Most buses leave the “Na Knizeci” bus terminal, which is situated on station Andel of metro line B. This station has two exits, Andel and Na Knizeci, follow the signs towards Na Knizeci exit. Some buses leave from main bus terminal Florenc (station Florenc of metro lines B and C). Trains leave from the Main station (station Hlavni nadrazi of metro line C).

If you want exact timetables and pricing, type idos.cz into your browser, click English (lower right) and enter Praha and Cesky Krumlov with date and time of departure into that search engine.

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tjchip22 wrote:
By the way, I have only bought eurail tickets within a country(Italy), and I don’t know what these border crossings are like.

Very rarely there is a true border station (e.g. a station that spans its building, tracks and platforms across the international border). There are such stations (Brennero/Brenner in Italy/Austria, Bayerisch Eisenstein/Zelezna Ruda in Germany/Czech rep.), but are rare.

99 times out of 100, when you cross the European int’l border by train, the train just rushes right through it. Usually the train stops in at least one station which is close to border (usually within 20 miles) where the train personnels of particular nationalities change. This station may come before or after the actual border, so for the reasons of travelling with various railpasses and national discount cards etc., European rail companies came up with the idea of “tariff borderpoints”. This is the exact point where the border crosses the track, and legally ends or starts the segment where the particular national rail company is a carrier. Although on 99% routes trains don’t stop there, you can buy a ticket to/from there if you already own a ticket for the other country. Every single line in Europe, which crosses the border, has this virtual “tariff borderpoint”. It is named after the closest station to the actual border with (GR) in parentheses. GR stands for Grenzpunkt, border point in German. Between the borderpoint and the nearest station, even a neighboring country conductor has the right to check your documents (while in fact they rarely do, since the moment the train passes the border, the carrier company legally changes!, so they would do work for another company).

The Schoena (Gr) borderpoint I mentioned before (on Berlin-Prague line) is on the bank of Elbe river between the stations Schöna in Germany and Dolni Zleb in CZ. But the expresses from Berlin stop at Bad Schandau in Germany and Decin in CZ, since these are the closest important cities. Crews change in Decin. German conductor will probably like to see your documents from borderpoint to at least Decin.

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Well, buses sound like the better option then.
And thanks for clarifying the border crossings.

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