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Extending stay in Greece/Europe
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Hi,

At the moment, I’m trying to extend my stay in Greece. I want to extend it to a year. I can only stay for 3 months without a visa. I am an Australian citizen with Greek heritage: Does this make me a dual national? Do I need a visa? Will I get into trouble if I overstay?

What about Europe? What if I want to visit other European countries? If I extend my stay in Greece, will I be allowed to leave the country and travel between other countries?

Thanks if you can help,

Saki
 
PS. I’m 17 years of age. Do I have to be 18? I will be 18 this March.

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Ikas,

As a tourist from Australia, you are allowed a maximum 90-day visa-free stay for the entire Schengen area (Austria, Belgium, Czech Rep, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway,&nbspoland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden). 

From that point onwards, you need a long term visa for Greece, and that long-term visa will not be a Schengen visa.

According to information I found here: http://www.alloexpat.com/moving_to_greece_forum/visa-to-greece-greece-visa-guide-t83.html you will have to go to a local police station 2 weeks before your 90 days expires, in order to apply for a long stay tourist visa.

Now, if either of your parents is a Greek national, you can also be recognized as such.  But it can get messy trying to pursue that right now.  You’ll be turning 18 soon, and if you stay longer than 6 months, as a male Greek national you may be required to provide proof of why they shouldn’t [yet] have to fulfill mandatory military obligation (school, live abroad, etc).  But the laws and implementations are quite complicated on this issue.
 
I think you’ll find this website helpful: http://greekconsulate.org.au/ It’s Greece’s consulate iln Sydney

Is there any particular reason why you’re staying for such a long continuous time?  And why you hadn’t applied for a long-stay visa before departing Australia?


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Just an elaboration on the info above. AFAICT:

– do not expect that your request for long term tourist visa will be automatically approved; authorities will need a good evidence that even after 3 month you are still a tourist;

– on the other hand, if they find you eligible for a study permit (easy if you decide to study there) or a work permit (hard, because you probably don’t have any high demand profession yet) then you will essentially become a short-term resident of Greece, and thus of the whole EU; that is to say, you’ll have no Schengen visa, but you will be able travel anywhere you want regardless.

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The reason I want to stay for so long is because I want to cover the entire country, and I’ll need about a year to do that. But also because I love it here more, and I will have nothing to do in Australia when I go back.

What happens if I go to Turkey, then re-enter Greece when my 3-month period ends?

What happens if I go to Turkey, then re-enter Greece when my 6-month visa ends? Will I be able to stay another 3 months, then extend it to 6 months again?

I am leaving from Warsaw, Poland and traveling for 37 days
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ORIGINAL: Seva

– on the other hand, if they find you eligible for a study permit (easy if you decide to study there) or a work permit (hard, because you probably don’t have any high demand profession yet) then you will essentially become a short-term resident of Greece, and thus of the whole EU; that is to say, you’ll have no Schengen visa, but you will be able travel anywhere you want regardless.

 
Is it easy to get a study or work permit? For work, does it have to be a profession? What about a regular job like McDonalds?
 
I’m not recorded in Greece. I don’t have any Greek ID card; only my mother has. She got that because of Greek origin, both her parents being born in Greece.
 
And what happens if I apply for this long stay visa? Will that stop me from being able to get a work permit, thus not being able to travel anywhere around EU?
 
Please get back to me, as I need to know pretty quickly.
 
Saki

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Hopefully this website can help answer some of your questions:
 
http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-greece
http://www.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/en-US/Services/Visas/Long+Stay+Visas/
 
I have a question: is your passport stamped? (most likely, yes)


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hey I know this is an old topic but I am in the same predicament. I have been in greece doing animal welfare volunteer work and have just started a new placement for the next month- There is another organisation in Naxos I would like to work for after I am done here- therefore outstaying my 3 month “visa”. I entered via italy so I passport was stamped there but not in greece. Any recommendations/?

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hey I know this is an old topic but I am in the same predicament. I have been in greece doing animal welfare volunteer work and have just started a new placement for the next month- There is another organisation in Naxos I would like to work for after I am done here- therefore outstaying my 3 month “visa”. I entered via italy so I passport was stamped there but not in greece. Any recommendations/?

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Lulukrystal, you may find this link useful: http://livingingreec…

It appears that overstaying a Schengen visa will cost you a 600 euro fine in Greece. If you can find a Schengen country that’s quite lax about people overstaying, maybe travel there from Greece, and fly back home from there.

You said your passport was stamped upon arriving in Italy. Consider your arrival in Italy as day 1 of your total time allotted within the Schengen zone.

Also, to clarify something that was brought up with Ikas last year: if his grandparents were from Greece, (not even his mother), then Ikas is right: he’s not recorded anywhere, as far as authorities know, he’s just an Australian tourist who overstayed his 90-day visa-free stay. Although he could claim Greek nationality if he wanted to.

I want to reiterate that going to Turkey for a few days, hoping to re-enter the Schengen zone for a fresh 90 days…it just doesn’t work that way, authorities are not stupid. Your passport is scanned on entry and departure, and they know how long you’ve already been within the Schengen zone recently.


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I’m form Egypt and I have traveled before to Greece, I’ve 3 schengen visas, never break, I’ll travel this year to study greek coure for 3 months and there’s another one after tow months of the first, in te univesrtiy they told me that I can get visa extenison, and not t cme back to Egypt and traveling again, so it’s possible fr me if I have the acceptance letter of the Aristotle university to extend my visa or they will refuse, please it’s urgent