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First Euro Trip - Need Help!!
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Hi !

This will be my first Euro Trip and I’ve done some research online.. however still not sure if my plan will work.

My trip will be 2 weeks long. I am interested in good food, beaches, nightlife and beautiful scenery. I am hoping to fly to Barcelona First (from Toronto) Would love to spend a few days there, maybe head to Ibiza for 1 or 2 days for the experience. Want to then go to Italy for a few days. (not sure on where would be the best place?) And then head to greece and travel a few of the islands. Would it make sence to fly back to Toronto from Athens at the end of my trip? Here are my main questions.

1. Is it doable to travel to Spain, Italy & Greece in those 2 weeks
2. Recommendations for Italy places?
3. How to travel to each country

Any other insight you can provide. My buget is around $3000 is that realistic?

THANK YOU!! (Travelling with 3 people)

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I forgot to mention – travelling in July

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I think you need to cut one country. Any one of these large and diverse countries would be a great two week trip by itself, any two of them would be a very full two week trip. Because of the transportation logistics of getting to/from/around Greece (ferrying to various islands takes time), I’d probably save Greece for your next trip, when you can spend at least a full week, preferably more, there. I would use an open jaw flight (into Barcelona out of Athens or Rome) in any case as getting back to Barcelona will probably kill an entire day. Getting between any 2 cities takes at least 1/2 day (check-out, get to train station, train, get to new hostel, check-in) and any flight takes at least 5 hours (to/from airports, 2 hour check-in/security, flight). In some cases, scheduling means you effectively lose the whole day even though “it’s only a 90 minute flight.”

For Italy, I’d recommend 3 days Rome, 2 days Florence, 2 days Venice plus an extra day for the travel time to/from italy and between the cities.

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I would say you can do two of the 3 countries, but focus on one of them.

For example, you can make Italy your main focus, and pick one “mega region” (for example Florence-Tuscany, Cinque Terre, and Rome…or Rome and Naples/Capri/Amalfi Coast) for a total of 9-10 days, and make Spain or Greece your secondary country by flying to one destination in that country for a few days (like maybe Barcelona, or western Crete, or Corfu, among many other options), then fly back home to Toronto (will definitely require a layover somewhere, if you’re flying out of Crete or Corfu).

Greece can be a focus for 10-11 days (but limit the amount of places you visit…like Crete, Rhodes, and Athens, or Rhodes, Santorini, and Athens) and you can make Italy your secondary country by flying to Venice for a few days, then back to Canada.

Spain can be your main focus for 9-10 days…maybe do Barcelona, Valencia/Alicante/Costa Blanca, plus Madrid….or Barcelona, Valencia/Alicante/Costa Blanca, plus Ibiza or Mallorca…then maybe make Italy your secondary country by flying to Rome for a few days, then back to Canada.

So, if you wanna do two countries, I would do something along these lines, and wisely choose places that are easily reachable from each other.

Any questions on trains, airports/flights, ferries?


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Great thanks for all in the info. From my research, i think i will enjoy greece and spain the best. If i were to start in Barcelona how would i travel to Valencia/Ibiza etc. I definetly need help on transportation and places to stay. Do you think $3000 is realistic?

I would love to stay around the water in Spain, and Greece main pics would be Santorini and Mykonos. Any other islands you would reccomend?

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Basic backpacker style budget. (hostels, food from markets and street vendors, very limited partying)
Budget: July airfare — probably lucky if this comes out less than $1,200
City to city transportation: $150 per week or $300. This could be a lot more if you can’t find a cheap flight from Spain to Greece or the options to/from Ibiza get pricy in high season
Daily living: at least $75 per day, preferably $100 as Ibiza is going to be expensive

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Thank You . Any recomendations on the best flight websites to use to book flight from Barcelona to Greece?

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I use www.whichbudget.com to see which low fare airlines fly which routes and to get a basic idea of costs and timing. Our “cheap flights” forum, particularly the “new users” thread has a lot more tips, search engines, links and help.

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Thank You!

Okay.. soo now things might have changed. I’ve been told by other that 12-14 days just isn’t enough time for Spain & GReece. I am leaning more towards Greece as my main attraction and heading to turkey or croatia for a few days as well.

Thoughts?

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Croatia vs. Turkey….

I love both.
Neither is as easy to get to from Greece as it looks like on the map.
Both are different from Greece, but Turkey maybe a little more so.
I’d decide based on the best transportation options I could work out.

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Croatia sort of spans both Mediterranean Europe and Central Europe, with coastal Croatia having a Mediterranean feel to it, and inland Croatia (the northeast) having a Central European feel. Coastal Croatia will actually resemble Greece’s Ionian coast and islands, both architecturally and topographically, due to a shared history (being ruled by the Republic of Venice) and a similar climate (the east side of the Adriatic-Ionian is one of the greenest/rainiest parts of the Mediterranean. Summers are dry, but the annual summer-dry season is shorter than in the rest of the Med).

Turkey is a whole other planet, but no less worthwhile. Not sure where you’re from, but here in the US, people often hear/say/use “Greece and Turkey” in the same breath a lot, but…aside from some superficial similarities in food and music…they’re two completely different planets, especially the further away you get from Turkey’s west-coast cities (like Istanbul, Izmir, Antalya, etc). And much of what Americans consider “Greek food” is actually Asia Minor cuisine that was brought to the US [and to Greece] by Turkey’s Greek minority who left Turkey in the 1920s and emigrated mostly to Greece, but also to countries like the US or Argentina. The cuisine from Greece itself is actually different.

So, if the cultural difference intrigues you, as well as Turkey’s absolutely gorgeous coasts (and, of course, Turkey’s western and southern coasts have a Mediterranean climate, just like Greece), then you can certainly visit Turkey. And Istanbul is definitely one of the great cities of the world. The west coast of Turkey was also a part of the Greek world from ancient times until the 1920s, so some ancient Greek or Greco-Roman cities/ruins are located in what-is-now Turkey, on the country’s west coast.

There are ferries connecting some Greek islands (specifically the ones close to Turkey) with nearby Turkish cities..such as Rhodes to Bodrum and Samos to Kusadasi. There are also plenty of flights connecting Athens and Thessaloniki to Istanbul and Izmir. Athens is also connected by air to Croatia (specifically Zagreb and Dubrovnik) with Croatian Airlines. A number of carriers connect Athens to Barcelona and Madrid, such as Iberia and Vueling. There are direct flights connecting Athens to smaller Spanish cities, and Madrid/Barcelona to smaller Greek cities and islands, but these are mostly charters for Greeks/Spaniards visiting each others’ countries on holiday, so this is useless info for you. Although I do believe that Ryanair now has regularly scheduled service between Girona and Thessaloniki.

My suggestion would be along the same lines as my previous post: focus on Greece, since that’s the country you seem most interested in, and pick one destination in a secondary country, and whether that secondary country is different or similar to Greece is up to you. Of the 3 options (Spain, Turkey, Croatia), Spain will be the most similar to Greece culturally, despite the distance. Turkey, despite being next door, will actually be the most different. Croatia will be in-between.


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