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My girlfriend and I are doing our first Eurotrip next summer and could use all the advice we can get. We would be traveling May 25 until June 21, so roughly 28 days. We want to fly into Dublin, make our way over to England, and head to Italy, stopping in various countries such as France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, and Austria. With a 28 day trip, is it feasible to Fly into Dublin, travel to England, then to France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria and finally Italy, then fly back to the United States from Italy?

One thing I hear a lot is not to “cram”. Let me know if the aforementioned trip would be cramming. If so, would you suggest cutting it down to 4 countries with about 7 days in each (minus 1 day to travel from each)?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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With a 28 day trip, is it feasible to Fly into Dublin, travel to England, then to France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria and finally Italy, then fly back to the United States from Italy?
Yes, it’s feasible. Check information about open jaw flights on the “cheap flights” forum.

You will find this trip rushed, but it’s probably “doable.” For me, it would be uncomfortably rushed. You need to figure out your 28 days. Day 1 is your flight to Europe, arriving day 2 — possibly jet lagged, exhausted and culture-shocked so don’t plan anything too hectic for day 2. Day 28 will be entirely taken up with your flight home and it’s possible that day 27 will be tied up making sure you’re where you need to be for an early morning flight. That leaves 24 to 26 days for getting around Europe. I like to spend at least 2-3 nights in every city — 4 in cities like Rome, Paris, London where there’s a ton of stuff and “must see” trips like Pompeii, Versailles and Stonehenge/Bath that take a full day. I would limit “one night stands” to 1 or 2 and the total of within-Europe flights and overnight trains to a max of 4 (1 a week) for a 28 day trip. Hope this helps.

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Ok well I narrowed it down a little bit…what does everyone think…

Fly into Dublin (4 days)
London (3)
Paris (3)
Brussels (2)
Antwerp (2)
Amsterdam (3)
Munich (3 via overnight train)
Salzburg/Vienna(3)
Venice (2)
Florence (2)
Rome (4)

I understands that is a lot of countries, but seems to be feasible. What do you think? The only other option would be to do 4-5 different countries with very large gaps and transits in between…Thanks!

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Uhh.. My math is different from yours. I count 27 days on the calendar counting both May 25 and June 21. You’ve got 31 days in your itinerary… Plus you really haven’t figured in the transportation time for getting from Dublin to London. A flight in the middle of the day will shoot an the entire day for sightseeing as most attractions don’t open til 9:00 or 10:00 and many close at 16:00 or 17:00. You need to mark this out on the calender, putting in flight/train times from your likely schedule. Use http://reiseauskunft… for train schedules.

Why both Brussels and Antwerp? For that matter, why either? Spend 2 days in Brugges and walk to the Central Square in Brussels from Centraal station on a 3 or 4 hour stopover between Brugges and Amsterdam or between Paris and Brugges. You can also see Salzburg as an all day stopover between Munich and Vienna. I would also do an overnight train between Vienna and Venice.

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I would rather not do flights, but instead take the ferry from Dublin over to London. I realize it will take up most of the day though. As for Brussels and Antwerp…I have never been to Europe before, so to not stop in the Capital city of Belgium would boggle my mind. As for Antwerp, I am really into good beers and have been recommended from numerous people that some of the best beer bars in the world are located in Antwerp. Anyway we structure it, we want 30 days for the trip…so is the ROUGH itinerary aforementioned doable, or should we add a day to a few places? Thanks!

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If you don’t want to do any intra-europe flights, I’d cut Dublin from this itinerary and fly into London.

Brussels is, for the most part, a huge, modern, cosmopolitan city. It’s kind of a combination of Seattle for the modern architecture and NYC for the multicultural vibe — on steroids. I absolutely love it for it’s cosmopolitan nature. However, from a “Europe” standpoint it has an interesting medieval square which you can see in 20 minutes. As for beer, I think Brugges is a better choice than Antwerp.

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How long would it be to get from Dublin to London via ferry/train? I have heard mixed things about flying…having some comment that getting to the airport in one city, flying, then getting to the city from the other airport can be a hassle and use up time too…any thoughts? I do not want to be rushed, however since this is my first time, I am expecting to be a little exhausted, for I want to see a myraid of countries. What cities above that I am staying numerous days can be cut down a day? Thanks!

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treyrab wrote:
How long would it be to get from Dublin to London via ferry/train?

Several hours? Basically a day’s travel? (But not really unpleasant.)
It would involve a ferry from/to various locations, for us it was Swansea to Cork (we were going from Wales to Ireland).
For you it might be Dun Laoghaire, to Holyhead, Wales, then train to London.
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Others might offer different routes or suggestions.

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How long would it be to get from Dublin to London via ferry/train?
I thought I answered this before, but don’t see my post. The shortest ferry-train trip between the Dublin ferry port and London is nearly 8 hours. Getting from Dublin to the ferry port adds an hour.

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my advice
see Brussels in 5 hours – i think it is skippable
i did
i stopped in Brussels by train from Amsterdam
looked around the square, ate a waffle, saw where the Royals live, got back on the train to Bruges and spent a very cool 2 days there

agree with the previous post about switching Antwerp for Bruges – 2 full days in Bruges would be great. even 1 full day. another full day out of Bruges would be to do a WWI tour of Flanders

i would add extra time to Paris

happy travels

I am leaving from Palo Alto with $123 for 22 days
London, Paris, Tours, Caen, La Rochelle, Annecy, Genoa, Venice, Florence, Rome
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renagel wrote:
my advice
see Brussels in 5 hours – i think it is skippable

heh
Reminds me of the Luna song, 23 Minutes in Brussels