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Flying Open Jaw in July 2010
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Hi Folks,

This is a tricky one!

I’m in a band and we’ve been booked for a European festival in France this coming July. Since we’re doing more than one festival as well as a tour, I’m considering flying open jaw. We’d need to leave Friday, July 23, 2010, probably in the evening. First leg would be NYC to LYON. After a two-week tour of Belgium and the Netherlands (ending with an English Festival) we’d return to NYC from London on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 (LONDON to NYC). There are five of us.

I understand that having specific dates limits the available bargains. I have, however, received a chunk of change from the French festival to purchase tickets for all five of us. I need to stretch what we have and it’s a bit overwhelming.

With that in mind:

1. Is it too early to get a good deal right now? I’ve looked around and the best deals appear to be on Swiss Air or Aer Lingus. Even without flying open jaw (i.e. round trip from NYC to LYON) everything is over $1000 (anywhere from $1100 – $1300). I’ve signed up for Kayak notifications and the fares are actually going up $1 ever week. Strange.

2. When is a good time to purchase 5 flights to Europe in July? Some travel agents I spoke to explained that the “deal fares” aren’t even in yet. Is January better?

3. Is flying open jaw more trouble than it’s worth? I figured I would save time and frustration by doing so, rather than purchasing round trip tickets (NYCLYON) and then buy 5 one-way train tickets from London to LYON to catch the “cheaper” RT flight.

4. Baggage fees are a big consideration for us (instruments, merch etc.). Any suggestions on airlines to avoid? I know some carriers are more flexible than others in terms of baggage allowances.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Doc

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  • Open jaw is the way to go in this case.
  • Baggage fees could be a HUGE consideration in this case. How much stuff you talking about?
  • June-August is the most expensive time of year to fly transatlantic. $1100-$1300 is typical. A summer “deal” from NYCLYS / LONNYC in this case could mean the first airline under $1000 that doesn’t kill you on baggage fees. However, I think if you’ve signed with a few sources (Bing, Farecompare, Orbitz) for these routes, and are flexible, you might do well to wait until you see something in the $800s. I’ve seen similar itin’s in summer go for $500s up to $1300s+. Past sales are no guarantee of repeats; last summer’s low fares were a fluke; the price of fuel will play a big part in how airfares play out for summer 2010. A good price might pop up right now, next month, in April… no guarantee.

Also check consolidators for open-jaw tickets, such as Airdeals.com, Flights.com, and EconomyTravel.com.

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Baggage? Tell me about it. It’s bad enough flying domestically. We have: one acoustic guitar, on cajun accordion (carry-on), one electric bass, one fiddle, one pedal steel guitar. The latter instrument has always been a pain in the butt fee-wise. Actually, I insisted that he bring a smaller, single necked pedal steel this time around. We’re not bringing amps or anything massive like that. The heaviest bag is likely to contain merch. I may mail CD’s to Europe, assuming I can get them past customs as promotional items.

I’ll sign up with Bing and Farecompare as well. The consolidators are also a great suggestion.

I’ll shoot for 5 tickets under $1000. If two or more airlines offer the same ballpark fares, I’ll use the baggage fees as a tie-breaker.

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Actually, using Bing I just found 5 flights on British Airways for $5501.55, including taxes (i.e. approx $1100 per ticket).

That seems pretty decent, actually, though I’d seen better deals on Swiss Air earlier this month. Would you recommend I wait?

I know gas prices are high, but high unemployment and interest rates on credit cards rising fast, I wonder if airlines won’t be forced to reduce fares, even if the oil goes up in 2010.