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Ladybug, a very long t-shirt or boxer shorts + singlet top is what I would wear.

Helen, I’m with you on the shorts thing… they cut the legs visually and make most people look double the size. Give me a skirt any day.
I think flip flops will be just fine for your travels… who cares if you look girly, you’re a girl!
Also, yeah you def. need a jumper in Europe, but I wouldn’t take anything bulky, a thin wollen jumper/top in black or another neutral colour is a must pack.

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I have to agree with everyone else that this is a really helpful post. While I don’t have any tips to add yet, I do have some questions. I will be on a study abroad program in England from September to June. I like to wear cute fashionalbe skirts, but I also plan to bring jeans. If I wear skirts to class will I stick out?

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This thread has been dormant for a while, so I thought I’d ressurect it. Cheers!

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Hi everyone! This has been such a wonderful help to me. I am going on my first solo trip to Europe on April 8th and I am very excited, and nervous. This has really helped to answer my packing questions. I am going to Europe for 6 weeks and I plan to do myself a favor and not have a period while I am there. This is very safe and easy to do if you are on the birth control pill. When you run out of pills, immediately start taking your new ones and you won’t have a period that month. I consulted with my Dr. before doing this when I went to Dominican Republic last year and she said it was perfectly safe. It isn’t something to make a habit of but it will make things so much easier for you while travelling. Just thought I’d share that with all you females. Happy Travels!

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I’m going to travel around europe in summer for 2 months and just want to know what size beauty products will last me this amount of time? Mainly talking about shampoo, conditioner, body wash and moisturiser. I just don’t want to take jumbo sizes if I’m going to only use a quarter of each!

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A good idea is to observe how much you use over two months at home. Eye your bottles for the next two months, or put your shampoo etc in travel size bottles and see how much you use. Then cut this by a little because chances are you won’t shower every single day . . . that should give you a good idea of how much you’ll need while you’re in Europe.

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thats good advice… I always pack my toiletries about a week ahead and just use them as a trial run. It really helps in working out what you really need and what you can leave behind or take less of.

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Fabulous thread.

First, I wanted to turn you on to the "ultimate black travel dress." It’s at www.travelsmith.com. There’s also a shorter one that is a little less matronly. I swear to God, you could drag this thing under a Greyhound Bus and it wouldn’t wrinkle.

Also, just want to second SteelyJen’s suggestion of baby powder in the hair. If you have dark hair and are worried about it looking gray or just dull from the powder, Bumble & Bumble makes a black hair powder. It’s triple the cost of baby powder, but if it’s in your budget, it’s pretty cool. Body Shop also makes a small canister of "hair freshener" spray so your hair will smell like you just got out of the shower, even if you haven’t bathed in days.

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Thanks for the B&B black powder rec. (sounds a bit dangerous around white clothes thoughSmile) Just wanted to add a little tip I saw on the view re unwashed hair. Place a stocking over your hairbrush, spray it with perfume and then brush your hair. The alcohol in the perfume will get rid of greasies and it’ll smell niceSmile
I just think this will work better for me as I always like to pack a little perfume sample(they last ages)… and I use scraps of stockings to tie my hair back anyway.

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Wow, what a neat topic! I thought I’d send it back to the top again and see if we can get some new tips!

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Sebastian makes a good hair refereser thats about 8-9 USD for a full size bottle that works great! you can even buy a disposable and only take a portion, since it keeps well…I bought mine at a beauty supply store (NOT Salley’s) in southern california…

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this thread is great and should be up here forever…

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I totally agree with you Kathy… I actually think we could dedicate a whole board to it.

Ok I have a new tip which totally kicks ass. I can’t take credit for it thought as I learnt about it from another boardWink
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The best way to compact and streamline your makeup is to palettise everything and get rid of all the extra packaging involved. Only if you are like me and have a heap of different brands (with different sizing) you won’t be able to find the perfect solution. So what you do is this:

"Basically, you bake your e/s out of their pots, so you are left with just the metal pan holding the shadow. You take magnetic tape and put a tiny bit on the back of your pan.

Next, take an empty CD jewel case, remove the black insert, and place some magnetic backing to the CD case, making sure that the "void" that was where the insert was is on the bottom (hope this makes sense).

Take your pans, and stick ‘em in the CD case — voila! A homemade palette that you can play around with!

This was such a fab idea, and for me, I need practical, not pretty, so this rocks! And someone suggested a tiny Altoids tin to tote around one shadow or two for touchups if need be!

Here is a link to show you my finished product — it shows 2 CD cases overlapped, to clarify — I did not put pans on the cover and the back of one jewel case

www.makeupalley.com/…

I’m thinking that instead of a cd case I can maybe use one of those metal pencil cases (I think a cd case maybe too big for travelling)? I haven’t tried it yet, but would love to hear if you guys come up with anything else.

Also… I have recently ‘baked’ about 30 e/s and blush pans so if you can’t work out how to do this and need some tips, just holler!

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Gipsy,
That sounds a good idea, but I couldn’t see a thing on your link at makeupalley.
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ooops:
lets try again:
http://www.makeupall…

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lets try again:
http://www.makeupall…


That looked really nice, but let me tell you!!! you’re such a make-up gal!!!
I don’t even think I have so many stuff here with me at home. I may have a lot of gloss, and creamy eye shadows, but not more than 10 total!!!

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he he
no no no kathy thats not my pic!Smile
i’ve just copied it from another site (my original message was in "&quotWink

I am a makeup gal… but I’m not that bad.. I’m now thinking that a vintage cigarette box might be all I need to fit everything I need for a travelling kit… or maybe even one of those metal credit card holders. I know Aveda makes something like this but they cost an arm and a leg.

The thirty pans I baked were between myself, my sister and a couple of friends!

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Michellenz- in response to your question about toiletry (sp?) amounts, I have a lot of really thick, long dry hair and 1.5 travel-size bottles of Pert Plus (found at Wal*Mart for $.50) lasted me a whole month. You have to remember that there is a large chance you will not be able to take a shower every night (especially on overnight trains).

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Watch out with pert plus, It makes my hair dry and into a frizz ball.

If your going to change shampoos before leaving, give it a try first.

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Thanks cakes and enaltamar. I actually found some little empty travel bottles in Boots (Bond Street Station if anyone is wondering) and I’m going to fill those up and see how long they last. Hopefully I won’t need too many of them!

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Just a quick comment on the make-your-own makeup pallet thing: What I do is buy one of those little plastic three-pan eyeshadow compacts – a cheap one – making sure that at least one of the e/s colors is dark brown. Then I dig out the other two colors, and put either concealer or stick foundation in one, and a lip color (either tinted lip balm or lipstick) in the other. This gives me a concealer that I can also use as an e/s base, lip color that I can also use as blush, and e/s that I can also use as eyeliner, all in a tiny package. This and a mascara will take me anywhere!

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yeai mouse that is an awesome idea!!! I guess its the kind of thing you wouldn’t be too upset about if it got lost or damaged, which is a big plus. I guess also you could take maybe 2 of those, one with a dark grey or something and a deeper lip colour for night use.

Nickel I’m with you on the Pert rant… plus it gives many people dandruff too. Def. try it out at least a week or two before you leave.

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I saw Nickel’s reply and I got really surprised.
I’ve got oily hair, but also color treated. So what I usually do is I wash my hair with Pert Plus for normal to oily hair (with dandruff med) and I use some color treated conditioning, like Blond from Freida or Physique which are excelent.
I never got dry hair with Pert and I think that by hair looks much better, clean, and shiny when I wash with it.

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What a fabulous thread!

I have a question for your more experienced travlers. This summer I’ll be taking my first Eurotrip…I guess it’s the standard whirlwind tour of mostly W. Europe. Anyhow, I’ve been collecting tips about how to cut down on cosmetics. Something I learned on another site (maybe Rick Steves?) is to take an empty film container and use it to hold small amounts of things. I’ve heard people using it for base, for toothpaste, etc. Has anyone tried that? It seems like it would work, esp. if you tape the top down securely and carry in a plastic ziplock.

Also, I wear perfume everyday. My signature scent is Gardenia from Garden Botanika. However, the bottle that the perfume comes in is big and glass. I would love to be able to cut it way down. My sis wears scented oils which work really well for her. The problem is I’ve been unable to find a good oil that is gardenia scented and will last. I have been considering making my own by mixing a little mineral oil w/ the perfume and seeing what I come up with. Also, Garden Botanika makes body lotion, hand lotion, and massage oil that you can order personalized with your fav scent. These may work, but I’m afraid the scent will wear off. I don’t want to reek of Gardenia, but I do like to have a little subtle scent on me – especially when I’m traveling and may not always have a chance for my clothes to be super clean, etc.

Does anybody have any recommendations on what I should try? Anyone know of a good scented oil brand that I could order online?

Thanks girls!!!

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Hi emcat, I’d love to help but unfortunately I don’t have too much experience with perfumed oils.
Just a few thoughts though… The Body Shop has a good range of perfumed oils, as does Aveda. Also, you could try reflect.com although they don’t seem to do oils, they can custom make perfumes for you and they seem to have some streamlined canisters (just from looking at the pictures).
I’ve actually heard many raves (on other boards) about reflect and their customer service.

As for the film canister idea, sounds ok for some stuff a bit messy maybe though for things like toothpaste. I’ve actually discovered that for liquid foundation MAC counters give you really cute little plastic canisters when you ask for a sample of foundation. I used this on my last trip and it didn’t explode on the plane (which was a bonus).

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Hiya. Just a couple thoughts on the perfume prob. I have a couple different Auric Blends scents (black coconut and sandalwood). These come in small roll-on bottles and have never leaked when I’m traveling and take up almost no room. Don’t know if they have gardenia but the scents last forever (a couple days even).

Another thought is some travel companies make small bottles that you can pour your own perfume into. Magellans has one called a Travel Atomizer (www.magellans.com) that even comes with a little funnel for pouring. I haven’t used it so I can’t vouch for it but their products are generally quite dependable.

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Hey ya’ll,

thanks for the tips on the fragrance oils. I ordered a gardenia scent yesterday; hopefully the scent will wear well.

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emcat where did you order it from?

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Well, I looked at reflect.com and it looked great, but it was very expensive. I did a search for Auric blends that someone else recommended, but they didn’t have a straight gardenia blend. But the webpage that I found selling the Auric blends was called "Ventana – Window of Heaven Store" based in Ontario. They had another type of fragrance oil that I ordered. It was only $6 (US) so I figured I could give it a shot. If it doesn’t work it looked like Auric also sold a wax-based solid perfume that I’ll look into next.

gipsy – you seem to be a ‘menda’ expert… I bought the towel for myself and my boy for our upcoming trip. It looks like it’s going to be fantastic. Should I try it out or wash it before I leave with it? Thanks!

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Thanks for that emcat, $6 is great! After reading your post re the oil I’ve been thinking that its a perfect way to take perfume travelling since the scent doesn’t get damaged by heat or sunlight when it is in oil, does it? Plus oils are so concentrated a tiny amount would last for months, so great idea… gotta get me some!

p.s. I have actually used good quality perfumed oils in the past (I actually bought them travelling in Egypt! just a tip in case you ever go there), and I’ve also used a solid wax perfume before… and in my experience the oil scent lasted much better so I think you did well to order the oil first!

re the towel… yeai, I love it!
you don’t really need to wash it before you use it… they recommend that you do but that’s really only because the first few uses it might leave some little bits of fluff on your body… no biggie though. I’ve never washed any of mine before using them (I have a few ‘cause I use them at the gym).
hope you have a great trip!!!

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Hiya again. I second gipsy’s thoughts on the solid perfumes. I’ve used them as well and the scents are weak to begin with and not very long-lasting.
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p.s. Gipsy, our menda queen Smile I have a question: I bought one of the long sleeved metallicus (is that right?) shirts last year and it is waaaaaaaaaay tiny (and I’m not a very big person). Maybe it would be okay for clubbing or something but I don’t do much of that. However, I LOVE the way it feels and wonder if you know if the larger
size is noticeable larger, or just a little bit so. Hope it’s okay to ask such a direct question on here. If not I guess I can just get on the website and send an email from there . . .

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omg they are tiny aren’t they??? I felt really big the first time I tried them on ‘cause they are supposed to be ‘one size fits all’!! Still, the tight ones are pretty good worn under clothing, they keep you nice and warm. The ‘full figure’ ones are actually significantly bigger altough I would never classify them as full figure myself. I am an aussie size 12 which I think is a US size 10… and it just fits me nicely. I consider myself as being a pretty average size… so I know what you mean…. the Metalicus girls must be tiny!
Grace Brothers (if you live in Australia) is now stocking Metalicus clothes… so you can check them out there if you like. We are actually discontinuing them on our site (just because of logistics) not because they aren’t good products. Anyway if you want to order the bigger size hang on a few days as they will be going on sale!!! oh I should mention, the skirts ARE actually one size fits all… its just the tops that seem to squeeze you

Edited to add that wishlist.com.au also sells them!
Edited again to say they are now on sale: www.menda.com.au/cat…

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hi girls,

Thanks for the advice on the wax-based perfume. Hopefully the oil I ordered will be great, but if it doesn’t work out, I’ll look for another oil as opposed to the solid stuff.

gipsy – thanks for your help on the towel… now I have another question! This trip my summer will be my first, so forgive me if I am asking obvious questions. Anyway, what’s the best way to wash your towel? Do you do it in the washer/dryer, or just handwash it? I imagine that wringing it out well and hanging it will allow it to dry? Also, carrying it still damp in that little drawstring pouch is really ok? It doesn’t get moldy? yuck

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That will depend on where you are staying. Some hostels have laundry services , so you will be able to wash it decently. Others don’t, so you will have to use the sink and a bar soap. Most of the ppl wash clothes in the sink and they do fine with that.

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In regards to the periods, cramping, and tampons.

My last trip I went on in the beginning of March would have coincided with my period. I am on the pill, so all I did was continue taking active pills when I should have gone to the ‘intert’ ones. It kept me fromgetting a period. You can do that when ever you do not want to have a period, and from what I hear, it causes no harm other than causing you to go through more packets of pills that you normally would. But saving time and space and pain is worth it.

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just a caveat from my personal experience trying that with birth contorl pills—-for me it actually screwed up my cycle for a couple months—-didn’t get my period again when I should have, then got it for much longer than i should have. this doesn’t mean it won’t work—-it works for many people I think—-just means you can’t really know how your body will react till you try it. perhaps give it a go once or twice before actually leaving on your trip to see how your own body reacts.

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quote:
With reference to the fem hygeine Keeper, I have been using something that is quite similar called Instead (US$1.50-$1.99 at Target) and I am hooked! <IMG SRC="http://www.eurotrip.com/bb/smile.gif"> It is a soft, latex diaphram-type cup and the box recommends that you don’t leave it in for more than 12 hours, they also don’t recommend that you re-use them, but i have been removing mine in the shower and rinsing and re-using with no adverse affects. It is incredibly comfortable, but takes some getting used to (and a strong stomach-fresh blood is pretty nasty!) I highly recommend them and will be taking 2 of them, one for each month I’ll be in europe. I hope this sparks some interest in alternative forms of hygeine products, I heard somewhere that because tampons are bleached that the chemicals on them are being studied to see if they are contributing to reproductive problems. Has anyone else heard this??&lt>Everyone have a great trip!! <IMG SRC="http://www.eurotrip.com/bb/smile.gif">&lt>-Susan

no, am in Italy/Rome and have been following this/these topics for years. nothing of the above.
‘o.b.’ is very good – and also too expensive here – compared to other EC countries. forget about ‘tampax’…

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Really expensive ?
No tampax ??????
OMG!!!!
Well , now gonna really take OCP’s straight…
No hassle…

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I don’t know, they would have to be pretty damn expensive for me to stop using tampons!! I think I would be willing to sacrifice my food allowance if I had too!!
The OCP idea sounds good… but I’m a bit of a health nut so I don’t really like the idea of playing around with hormones.

OOPS Emcat… didn’t see your question until now! I just wash my towel in the washing machine… with my dark colours (the colour may run a little the first couple of times). I either stick it in the dryer or let it dry naturally. Just treat it like you would treat a regular towel… ie it isn’t very delicate.

No the towel has never got mouldy in its mesh bag… but then it doesn’t really stay in there a very long when it is damp… just when you have to up and go. Actually if you are travelling in summer in Europe… the towel should dry really fast so you shouldn’t need to carry it damp too often, if at all.
Also just a note, when you completely saturate the towel, ie wash it… allow some time for it to dry… because it is extremelly absorbent it will be holding a massive amount more water than a regular towel and the water does need time to evaporate. It doesn’t take that long, but I just wanted to warn you that it doesn’t miraculously dry super quick when it is completely saturated.
Just for after shower use though… it should dry pretty quickSmile

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gipsy, thanks for the advice on the towel!

My scented oil came in the mail…unfortunately the scent from this one doesn’t stick with me either! I am still trying to figure out what do to regarding scents while traveling. I am so addicted to this gardenia perfume…I feel totally naked without it! I have spent $30 or so buying 3 different scented oils that don’t work, so now I’m reluctant to spend anymore on them. I may end up decanting some of my perfume into a small plastic bottle and just use is sparingly over the 2 months I’m traveling.

I have a question about the pill too. I recently started it and was wondering how you work the time change, seeing as you’re supposed to take it at close to the same time daily. Do you just continue to take it at the same local time, or do you change slowly an hour at a time over a week or so to adjust, or what? I guess that just continuing to take it in the local time wouldn’t be a huge deal, since you’d only be off a few hours, not a few days?

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That’s a good question Emcat. I have been on the pill for 8 years and I try to take it at approx. the same time everyday but I don’t think that if you are an hour or two off it would hurt…People say all sorts of things about the pill that are mostly (silly)precautions, you will be fine. I never take the sugar pills at the end of my 28 day pack either…It’s a waste, who needs more sugar? I personally have tried continuously taking my pill and not having a period several times, (mostly while travelling). It has never been a problem with me, it’s very hassle free. Good luck

and remember if your worried…there’s always condoms

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Want fabulous skin???

Great tip. If you scrub your face with a packet of brown sugar mixed with lemon juice (if you’re oily skinned) or olive oil (if you’re dry skinned) or just plain water, then you’ve achieved what women pay hundreds of dollars for – a glycolic facial peel!! It really sloughs off the dead skin and leaves your skin SOFT and wonderful. I do it at home. And on the road in Europe it’s always easy to get a hold of brown sugar as well as lemons or olive oil once a week for a great face refresher.

Try it!

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Want fabulous skin???

Great tip. If you scrub your face with a packet of brown sugar mixed with lemon juice (if you’re oily skinned) or olive oil (if you’re dry skinned) or just plain water, then you’ve achieved what women pay hundreds of dollars for – a glycolic facial peel!! It really sloughs off the dead skin and leaves your skin SOFT and wonderful. I do it at home. And on the road in Europe it’s always easy to get a hold of brown sugar as well as lemons or olive oil once a week for a great face refresher.

Try it!

White sugar works too!!! can be used on its own too (with a tad of water)… just as a normal exfoliant. Another great ‘on the road’ mask is asprin… a couple of asprins dissolved in your hand with a bit of water, left to dry on the face for 5-15 minutes or so… it will do wonders for your skin.

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The few hours difference is not gonna be much of a problem.

Just continue to take once a day, around the time you used to.

Consider as morning, afternoon, night. In the beggining due to the time difference, it may be few hours more or less depending where you’re coming from, but that is not going to affect your organism not even your fertility. It’s still safe.
But pls, condoms are still going to be used, aren’t they ?!

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bringing it back up

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About the perfume. What I do is try to get samples from internet sites. I got a coupon to get a free Ralph perfume from sears. It was in a small roll on bottle. Good for packing, and it lasts longer than you would think.

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I’m traveling to Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and Prague. Do these countries each require a different electrical adaptor?

I read someone’s posting about just buying a cheap blow dryer and curling iron IN EUROPE, and I was hoping I could do that and be able to use them for my entire trip.

Any thoughts?

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NUChristine: If you buy a hairdryer in Europe, you won’t need an electrical converter, since all these countries use the same system. You shouldn’t need any plug adaptors either, although I haven’t been to Prague so I don’t know for sure what plug setup they use. Probably it will be the same as the other countries.

Try to buy a dual-voltage hairdryer, then you can use it anywhere in the world without the need for a converter.

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i feel like i’m the only one here who doesn’t like to empty my make-up jars and tubes into other containers. i get really nice and pretty expensive stuff. i know that if i empty it out and mix it with other things, it will be easier to carry, but i just can’t do it. chanel in a plastic container defeats the whole purpose of chanel IMO

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Hey guys, I hope one (or more!) of you can help!
I’m headed off to see my boyfriend who’s studying in Europe for the summer and we’re going to be doing some camping/backpacking. This means going up to 3 days without a shower. ACK! I have pretty oily longish hair that’s not quite curly and NOT AT ALL straight. I would normally just pull it back into a ponytail, but I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions as to what I could do with it instead. I would love to find a cute dude-girl (read outdoorsy) hairstyle that doesn’t leave me constantly putting it up. Can anyone help??