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I am planning my first and possibly only trip to Europe, and I have tons of questions, but I am trying to do as much research as I can instead of aggravating people here with questions that I’m sure have been asked at least 30000000000 times in this forum.

So, why I’m I posting here? Because I have notes in 30 loose papers and word documents in my computer, and maps and stuff, so I am hoping I will get a little organization here. I will be updating this with new discoveries and interests, and if you feel like dropping a line or two, be my guest, it will be very much apreciated.

Ok, where to start? ACK, this is tougher than I thought. Time is not really an issue here, I would like to be back in my hometown somewhere between July and August, but it is not really mandatory that I be there at that time, so the return date will be based on my good friend, the wallet, the departure date will be around April. I will be travelling solo, and I don’t want an itinerary, I know myself, and I will change plans too often, wether I decide to ditch one place for another or skip something if I start running short on cash, or stay for a while on a place I fall in love with. Regardless of that, I am trying to trace a rough sketch of my route so I can get an idea of how much money I will have to set apart for trains, and what passes I will need.

It is impossible to even hope to see each and every single city, town, ruin site, etc. in every country I will be, so I am trying to focus on certain things, for example, big cities in Spain, little pintoresque villages in Italy, etc.

My very rough first sketch without details is this (I am working on the details). I would like to start in Spain, Sevilla to be more specific, but it is cheaper to fly to London, so maybe fly from London to somewhere in Spain or I’ll figure that out later. Anyways, starting from south to north in Spain, and it is not that I don’t want to visit France, but I have other priorities, so I would maybe cruise the south of France a little bit until I get to Italy, where I make my way from north to south until hitting the heel of the boot. I take a ferry to Greece, where I don’t plan to be long since I am not fond of big crowds and it will be crammed with tourists because of the olympic games. So, maybe visit a couple of ruin sites; from there, my main goal is Rumania, but a couple of stops in Croatia on my way would be interesting. Rumania, there is no telling how long I will be staying there, the idea of medieval towns and monasteries obbseses me, so maybe 2-3 weeks there. Afterwards, Prague, a MUST in this trip, and from this point it all depends on cash. I want to go to the UK (I have to go there anyways to fly back home, besides, my family, and around 200 aquaintances would burn me alive if I miss the UK) and everything between Prague and UK depends on my budget.

Next comes the details of the countries above listed, but I have a headache, and I’ll go to bed now, I know exactly what I want to do in Spain, and I worked a little bit on my research on Croatia, and Italy, tomorrow will be another day.

Too much in my head, about to burst.

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Spain

Planning around a 50 euro budget per day (and hoping I’ll have some left over from some places), the idea is taking a cheap flight from London to Sevilla (if I find an airline that goes there, the closest I’ve found is Murcia), and from Sevilla travel to Cordoba, then Murcia to see a friend who will take me to Valencia with another friend, then go to Madrid, from there to Salamanca, and up to Barcelona. No day trips are planned for this stage of the trip.

I am setting aside 2-3 weeks for Spain; 2-3 days in each place, and some extra days for places I really want to spend more time at. Traveling south to north by train. No more details.

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yo, Jester! Stop stressin out man!!!! I know that all of us here have the same anxieties (more or less) before our First Big Trip To Europe, but you just need to work on the small stuff and the rest will come easy. I take travel like sculpting: Find out how much clay you need, start sculpting out a general shape and slowly work down to the details. So,

# 1 – first start with your budget and how many days you’ll be staying.

  1. 2 – work on a GENERAL ITINERARY. For instance, if I were you, I’d land in London and travel in a counter-clockwise path around Europe. A cheap flight from RyanAir will probably get you from London to Seville. From there, I’d take trains from Spain throgh Italy – a ferry into Greece – up through Macedonia into Romania… and then start heading back, through Croatia and up into Vienna, where you can take another RyanAir flight back to London for under $50.
  2. 3 – Make a list of 15-20 things you’d like to see/do in all the countries you’ve outlined. Now cut that list down to 5-10. Having a few goals will keep you motivated and energized. (If you have read any book by Tony Hawks then you’ll agree)
  3. 4 – Memorize those notes and itinerary you wrote down, but don’t RELY on them! An itinerary can be a big ball and chain strapped to your leg if you rely on them too much. All you need to know is when your flights leave. Get on that flight and just do it! Have fun getting lost or taking a wrong turn. You’re not on a race, you’re on an adventure!!

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Kahunna, thanks for the advise. I really am stressing out, LOL, but this is my first trip to Europe, and my first trip solo.

The reason I am trying to sketch a route (very basic route) is to have an idea of how much will be spent on trains and airplanes. I used a link from somewhere here that lead me to a place where they make an average calculation of the money and passes needed, and so far, I need 5 passes plus point to point tickets, and that’s only the train. Of course, I flipped out, LOL

I just wish it would be May so I could start the adventure…

BTW, I paid a little visit to your webpage, and it is awesome, I’m hoping I will make something similar someday.

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Tony Hawk writes travel books now? That guy is amazing!

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Tony Hawks, the English comedian and travel writer – not Tony Hawk the skateboarder.

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Wow, these months have gone by pretty fast, but they have been soooooooo freaking stressing. I am virgo, so, of course, I am a perfectionist, and I organize EVERYTHING!!! So I had a rough time finding an airplane ticket (more since I couldn’t find my papers and I didn’t want to buy a ticket from New York to London without knowing if I would be able to get my papers back on time. Good thing I didn’t rely on this, cause I couldn’t do squat about the papers since I lost not only the passport, but my citizenship and certificate of birth abroad as well, and the people in the offices in Oklahoma City are not very helpful, especially if you can’t prove you are legally in the US).

So, I decided to switch to plan B: Take a flight from Mexico City to Madrid. It’s not as big a waste of time and money as it seems because I was planning on moving back right after returning from Europe, so I just adjusted the moving time, and voila, all set!! It is going to be a little bit more expensive, but to be completely honest, going back to Mexico City right now makes me more happy than going to Europe. Funny what nostalgia can do to some of us.

So, after the ticket was purchased, the stress came in stronger, as I was trying to make an itinerary (contrary to what Kahunna adviced me), but that is because I was trying to fit a tour to Egypt, my greatest passion. I stressed out for two months, giving birth to 20 possible itineraries every day, I dreamed, ate and crapped itineraries for over a month. I would go to bed and spend two hours awake thinking, calculating, and of course, I would get 2-3 hours of sleep per night. The thing is, I am obsesive compulsive…. HomeSkillet is witness to this, and I was nice. Sorry, I’ll give you a call sometime this week.

One day, after trying out the camera I’m taking for the trip, I took some pics of me, and I scared the hell out of myself. I look like I died and then reheated myself in the microwave. Seriously, the zombies from Michael Jackson’s thriller look more appealing than I do. And after looking at myself, it struck me like lightning: I HATE travelling with itineraries!!! It is ironic, because as a virgo, I plan so much, but then some rebel part in me goes against my own decisions. I know myself, I am not the kind of person that does things because I have to, that’s why I did so bad in school. I wasn’t going to follow the itinerary anyways. So, I flushed the Egypt idea down the drain, and I sort of listed out the countries I WOULD like to see, then decided on buying the eurorail pass for 3 months, I don’t know if it’s worth it (money), but if this will help my nerves calm down, then it is worth it (mental health).

As soon as I tossed all itineraries away, I calmed down, and the trip became an adventure thing again, contrary to the bitch it became. So, the adventure begins next sunday, as I board the bus to Mexico City.

7 days….

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Weren’t you supposed to leave in April?
Women… always late

Have a great trip!

ps, if you’re happen to be somewhere near Luxemburg or Amsterdam give me a shout and, if I’m around, I’ll buy you a drink.

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I better not be late, or else, the holy ghost will owe me an explanation

When I said I was leaving in April, the date was not exactly carved in stone, and I had some expenses that I didn’t foresee, so sadly, I stayed for another month at my crappy job. But now, it is set on stone, May 25 is the big day

PS: To what direction should I point my shouting at?

PS2: Are you the one people are saying is a cutie in Europub? Just kidding

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Shouting here will work or else my email addy is in the profile.

As for PS2… no comment

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Are you still driving yourself crazy with itineraries?

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quote: I stressed out for two months, giving birth to 20 possible itineraries every day, I dreamed, ate and crapped itineraries for over a month. I would go to bed and spend two hours awake thinking, calculating, and of course, I would get 2-3 hours of sleep per night
HAHAHAHAHA! You have me in stitches! I’m a planner (ask Walter, haha), but geez, all this over a vacation — damn, you must need one, bc real life sounds like a Bummer.

Safe and fun journey. Also remember…life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans.

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Guess who I thought about when I read this Hope

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Nah, I’m not driving myself crazy with itineraries anymore, and curiously enough, now I can’t stop smiling. It’s been ages since I was in such a good mood. If I didn’t know myself, I’d think I got shagged last night.

And, yes, I do need a vacation URGENTLY!!! I got the wanderlust really bad, that’s my nature, and I’ve been stuck in this little town for over a year now (not even day trips) and when you grow up in a city as big as Mexico City with so many things to do, a little town like this one can drive you nuts in 2 weeks. But the way things were going, I would have needed a vacation BEFORE starting my vacation.

No, things look a lot better now, I just stress out over the last minute things, like getting the friggin’ backpack on time and the bus ticket to Mexico, but no more itineraries for me.

Thanks for dropping by Smile

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Romania and Croatia rule

go to Kraków

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Hello Jester, I went through the same thing as you regarding giving birth to 20 itineraries each day….
When I started planning my vacation I was thinking about to go in July to Argentina and spend a whole month there …(Even though I am Brazilian, I love Argentina, specially Bariloche…) I was searching for flights when I saw a good deal on a cruise to Scandinavia (I love Copenhagen also…) So I was wondering, Why not? So I started planning to Scandinavia and, since I was up there…. Russia as well…When was searching about Russia, I saw a site about the TRANSIBERIAN…mannnn…..it sounds like a greeeeeattt adventure…Seeing the red square-Moscow and the forbidden City – Beijing on the same pack?!? , it was a blast! So I realize, since I was into the wild, why not going to the wildest of all? So I started planning to go trekking in India and Tibet!! I was already seeing myself on top of elephants …So, I came to my senses…I was too wild after all, so I hit back to Europe…I was doing Scandinavia and switched Russia to Prague + Budapest…
Than, again, I started thinking…I was going all the way up north and not going to St Petersburg + Moscow…it isn’t right….so I exchanged Scandinavia to United Kingdom…and, since I was not going up north, why not going down south? So I included Venice…and since I was in Venice, Why not add up Prague? After that I decided to rush and by my ticket before I got nuts with all this planning……So my trip to Argentina turns out to be Paris+Glasgow+Edinburgh+Dublin+London+Venice+Prague….but, hopefully for the next trip it will be Scandinavia or Russia or China or South Africa or Alaska…Wink
Take Care and have a nice trip!
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quote:I take a ferry to Greece, where I don’t plan to be long since I am not fond of big crowds and it will be crammed with tourists because of the olympic games. So, maybe visit a couple of ruin sites

Why do people think that Greece wll be crowded? You know, a lot of people are expecting crowds, and are deciding to avoid Greece as a result. Not surprisingly, Greece’s national association of travel agents and tour operatirs has reported a 17-20% decline in hotel reservations by foreigners from the same time last year. Either people are anticipating crowds and are avoiding the country as a result, or people are being put off by the high August/September prices which were driven by these anticipations. The result? Fewer visitors!

Secondly, the Games will be taking place in Athens. Not Corfu or Rhodes or Mýkonos nor Thessaloníki. While it’s probable that many Olympic tourists will visit other parts of the country afterwards (most likely the Cyclades), there is no reason to expect more crowded conditions than on a normal year, other than pure speculation.


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Just get yourself a good guide book – that’s what they are for. It’s also a good idea to read a little bit of history before you go (or on the plane) because then things you see will actually mean something, rather than just being old buildings or meaningless piles of rubble. You can put everything into contextand know why they are there and what they were used for. For example, if you’re going to Seville and Cordoba (both fantastic places, btw) read up a little about the Islamic history of the region. And if you’re going to Greece, well…better start reading now.

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I am a historian wanna-be, Roger, and though my specialty is history of Mexico, i do have notions of history of Europe. This is what draws me there, it’s history Smile I already bought 3 travel guides, and I’ve gone throught them roughly, but I’m going to read them on the plane and trains. Do you recommend a good travel guide or a very good not so heavy history book?

Tgaud: You are really something, you seem to be one of those nightmares product of my college days (with the excess of thinking and sleepless nights, I mean, no offense).

Luv_the_beach: Athens is crowded every summer, with or without olympic games. I plan on maybe going to one or two islands to relax and give myself a break, but I do not plan to go to Athens. I think it will not only be crowded, but also dangerous. Maybe I am wrong, but with the world as it is today, I am even scared of going to McDonalds in the US. But it’s not like I am making a huge mistake, there are so many places to go to Europe that 3 months is not going to be enough, Athens or no Athens.

Pan: Krakow is on my rough list of places I WOULD like to see, let’s hope I make it there

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Jester, the first book I read on European history was by Rick Steves. It was a VERY basic, humerous outline but got me reading more and more.

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OK, I need to let some steam out or I´ll go on a killing spree.

I am currently travelling with someone who´s idea of travelling is radically different than mine. I am the kind that likes to see the sites, talk to people, have coffee on a nice plaza, relax, some night live as well… You know, spend at least 3-4 days per city.

My travel mate likes to go to museums and that´s about it. It has been really frustrating ever since she caught up with me because we have only done the things she wants to do. Since she´s been to Paris many times, we didn´t spend much time there, and I only got to see the Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame.

I didn´t go to Brussels or Brugges because she´s been there already, and the idea of going to Amsterdam did not appeal to her. I noticed this when twice she tried to talk me into skipping Amsterdam to follow another route.

We got to Amsterdam, and the next morning she woke me up at 8:30am saying Amsterdam was so small and she was ready to leave, and I was sick and half doped, and she was so pushy about this I gave up. I only saw the Van Gogh museum. Let´s remember when a decision like this is made, it means you have to hurry up to check out of the hostel before noon.

Now we are in Copenhagen, we got in this morning, and she´s already talking about going tomorrow to Slovakia, and she´s playing with the idea of Helsinski as well. I have to be in Venice on June 22, that is, in one week, and in this time she want´s to see Prague, Vienna, Berlin, Budapest, Stockholm, plus someplace in Switzerland and Poland, does this sound logical??

I think I´ve spent as much time in trains and carrying my luggage as I have in cities, and I can´t say I´ve been to France or Holland since I saw nothing in those places. I am spending a bundle of money because to top it off, she doesn´t like hostels. She says she doesn´t mind, but she´s rejected everyone of my choices and always ends up in a hotel. This means, no kitchen, no cooking.

I know what I have to do, I´m not really expecting any advice or anything, but what is it with people that think it´s way better to go to many countries for a small while rather than spend a really 2 awesome weeks in one country?

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Travel can really put one’s friednship to the test, ah? I wouldn’t put up with that. Just let her do her own thing and do you your own. I like your philosophy of more quality, less quantity.

By the way, speaking of Copenhagen…make sure to spend time at Tivoli’s. There are fireworks on Wednesday nights if you are still there tomorrow. The place is awesome. And I thought women in Copenhagen are some of the most beautiful in Europe. Good luck!

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Hey Jester,
For what I read on your previous post, maybe your friend is a bit scared…try to go to a hostel (no matter what she says…) so she can see for herself that there is no big deal on that…she will get used to it and she will love it!
As regarding to keep moving around, maybe you should relax and , if she doesn’t want to stay in conpenhagen for a little while, you stay anyways…, you can always catch her on the next town… (unless you are using those group eurail tickets)
take care and have a fun trip!
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Jester sweetie – DITCH THE FRIEND!

My policy is usually to travel alone in order to avoid fiascos like this one. I work wayyy too hard to save up the money for my trips and I don’t like compromising too much in order to make other people happy on the road. If the other person was a parent or a spouse, I would definitely compromise more…but the idea of traveling around the world when you’re young should not be clouded by pleasing incompatible travel partners!

Ditch her nicely and you’ll feel loads better…then you can start meeting people who have your style.

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My dear, take a Vicodin or something.

I can’t say enough how Europe is just more set up for travellers than other places. I can say definitely more so than the states but Mexico as well from what I remember ( I haven’t been to Mexico since I was a kid ). You will find quite a few transportation options from most cities to other cities. Tourist offices are everywhere so you can quickly get maps and information. Europe is compact, getting around most cities is pretty simple. I mean, I never see exchange places in Los Angeles ( where I live ) but they’re everywhere in Europe. Everything falls into place once you’re there. I think people expect to find what trains and everything they’re taking online ( because EVERYTHING is online ) but it will be a lot easier to get information on a lot of things once already there.

Why are you heading to Greece at all? I imagine if you don’t like crowds it wont be very pleasant. And accomidation would be a bit expensive I’d think with the games.

Okay, calm down. Have a good trip.

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Tim Burton is DA MAN!!!!!

I am not heading for Greece anymore, I am running short on cash, and if I get a loan or something, I think I’ll head (in secret) for France and Belgium to do all the things I’ve missed.

I’m not the one afraid to travel alone anymore. I was at first, but after spending 3 days with this girl, I changed my mind.

You guys are right, as I said before, I know what I have to do. It’s just that it’s like breaking up, LOL.

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ah! i head only read your first post then scanned others. i didn’t realize how old the first one was and that you were already travelling. i’m an idiot. i’m caught up now.

i’m trying to fit egypt in my trip as well. there just isn’t money for it but i’m in denial. i do that. i mean it’s a possibility but not likely.

i split up from my own sister travelling. some people are evil to travel with. i was in a similiar situation. i’m pretty laid back, my sister is not. she needs things her way. oh, and she went psycho on me and hit me in the head, but that’s a long story. i ended up meeting two boys in a hostel and travelling with them. maybe your friend will be okay with you wanting to split up if you just tell her you’re not saying her way of travelling is wrong, it’s just different than yours and that you want to spend the rest of your trip travelling your way. oh, and my sister was heavily against amsterdam as well. she started crying after being there for like an hour ( literally crying ). good luck.

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LOL, don’t worry, Jana, I do that all the time as well. What is it with Amsterdam that makes people cry?? OK, most go for the legal doping stuff, yeah, but there´s plenty to do for the "healthy" ones as well. You want to really cry? Go to Oklahoma.

Good news: This chick left a couple of hours ago for Stockholm. She wants to go to Helsinki and St. Petesburg, which sounds awfully nice, but I decided to stay and take my time. We will meet again in a week in Venice, but that is a week without her and her rushing, and besides, in Venice I will be with friends who will not put up with her crap, and from there, I can either fly back home, or pretend to fly back home and stay here a while longer. Depends on wether I get a loan or not, because I spent way to much in hotels and restaurants with this girl.

Alas, I am free.

I couldn’t stand her even for a week, how bad is that?

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FREEDOM!

Pretend not to recognize her when you see her in venice.

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quote: You want to really cry? Go to Oklahoma.

Wow! Are you from Oklahoma too? I grew up in Sapulpa, which is just outside Tulsa.

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Are you staying in Copenhagen or going to spend your week somewhere else?

If you’re looking to not spend a fortune, Helsinki wouldn’t be a good place to go anyway from what I hear.

My sister actually said after a guy hit on her in Amsterdam, "How could you bring me to this place". Hahaha. We’re from Los Angeles, it’s not like she’s never had a guy hit on her in a really rude way before.

I’m glad you got away from the friend. I’m sure you’ll meet cool people in hostels this week. And this week you’ll see how capable you are on your own.

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I’ll stay in Copenhagen until tomorrow night, then take a night train to Prague and spend 3 or 4 days there.

It’s funny how I was crying about travelling on my own, and now I am so grateful to be on my own. And the guy hitting on your sister, I can’t think of any country that does not shelter at least a couple of jerks. You’ll always meet people just wanting to shag, that’s part of the travelling experience. Ain’t it not?

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FREEDOM!

Pretend not to recognize her when you see her in venice.

I think I’ll change my look or something, dye my hair green or shave my head, I dunno.

No, Meredith, I’m not from Oklahoma, I’m from Mexico City, but my mom and her family are from OK City, and I lived there for the past year and a half. At last I meet an Okie that travels!!!!!!!!

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Do you go to OU or did you move to OKC for some other reason? Is there another reason one would move to OKC?

And yeah, there aren’t very many of us. When I tell people there about my trip to South America, they all assume that I was doing missionary work.

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I was scared to travel alone too and then became totally willing after dealing with my sister! Since I met people to travel with, I was only alone a few days ( in Prague actually ). It was nice though to get places on my own and manage to communicate with people all by myself as I kind of didn’t think I was capable of that. Now, I’m planning on going to Turkey, Romania, and possibly Egypt alone. I’m nervous but kind of excited as I know I’m going to learn a lot and be really proud of myself.

Have fun in Prague.

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You’ll have a great time in Prague, it was one of my favorite citys to travel in alone. If you want more info I posted my boyfriends guide to Prague a month or so ago and its pretty good- he lived in and around there for 8 years. I would post again, but I am in the middle of nowhere China at the moment……
Good Luck!

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Yeah who needs Charlie’s Angels with girls like us around?

Indpendent woman!

grrls rule

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OH, GREAT NEWS!!! This girl I was supposed to meet again in Venice won’t make it, this is faaaaaaaaaaaaaantastic…

Well, I ended up staying in Copenhagen all week, I am still here, I’ll catch my train tomorrow morning. I met three veeeeeery charming irish guys, and one of them lives in Malmo Sweden (about 35 minutes from Copenhagen) with his girlfriend and their baby, and they welcomed me in their home, and I am having a great time with them. I got delayed here after an adventure with one of the irish guys, and I refused to go to Prague for only 2 days, so I’ll have to catch it later on the trip, maybe after I’m done with my commitments in Italy.

Cheers.

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Sounds like you’re finally having fun, Jester. That’s great news! Enjoy yourself and be safe!

HS

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Danke, Skillet, I am having fun now. It was just an adjusting thing Smile

I was informed a couple of days ago of my brother’s wedding, set for July 24 (why he chose that day is beyond me, but that takes away a month from my trip, and gives me a set date), so I am starting to rush into things. Siiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhh, I wanted to go home, and now I am searching for ways to extend this, even thinking on getting a job someplace for a little while, but my brother’s wedding is raining on my parade.

I am enjoying Italy, although it hasn’t been what I expected. And the Jester masks in Venice flipped me out and I am around 200 euros short on cash now. I had been a good girl, resisted temptations and everything until I got to Venice.

A friend from College who is here with me now is advising me to go to Corfu, because not going to Greece would be like not comming to Europe at all, but it will take me over a day to get to Corfu by train and ferry, and with the short time I have now, I think it wouldn’t be wise or practical to go to Corfu for 3 days when it will take me 2 days to go to and come back, so unfortunately, Greece is out of the picture. It’s just too far for such a short time. I’d rather spend a little more time in the east, maybe spend 4 days in Prague instead of just 2, and then go to Krakow in Poland. It’s not so out of the way.

I’ll keep you updated.

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Who needs enemies with friends (or should that read fiends) like you lot ???

What’s wrong with museums, the old stuff is the best (or perhaps just the oldest).

As for Amsterdam, why would anybody want to travel with an drug altered state of perception, plus Walter is from there, need I say more ???

Jester, I think you should crawl to Venice, then throw yourself at the feet of this dear friend and beg forgiveness then indulge in a 35 day Museumfest by day and a Scat Jazz fest (not sure what the Tally scene is actually like) at night.

You come back whole person better for it, trust me… they gave me my painting privileges back and stopped the scalding hot electroshock baths!

My passport is my mind!

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so it’s fucked up, too?

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Kraków rules

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"because not going to Greece would be like not comming to Europe at all,"

Oh man! Don’t listen to him/her.

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Nothing is wrong with museums and the like, Jboy, but I’m only human, and you may not realize this, you immortal superior being, but humans tend to get tired once in a while. Now, if she matches your travel style, I could hook you up with this chick, see who fires the first shot (very likely to happen).

I’m in Sco’land now, beautiful place, but I left my heart in Ireland. Siiiiigghhhhhhhh, a lot of places have been a little dissapointing, but not Ireland. I wouldn’t mind retiring there. I liked it so much I’m going back next week, and I’m not sure for how long. I wold definetly move there for a while if I had the means. And the irish, lovely people, especially when they’re drunk (mental note: how many dicks can you see in the centre of town in half an hour?)

Ah…. update, for those of you who pretend to care, I’m ditching my little brother’s wedding, which makes me feel satanic and evil, but I’ll deal with the guilt later, I’m busy right now. So I’ll wander around a little longer. Yes, I’m finally getting the hang of travelling, and I’m loving it.

And if you’re ever in Manchester, take a daytrip to Eyam, lovely….

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Jester- i have been reading your updates, and just wondering how long you have been traveling and how long you plan to stay, and your budget so far? I’m sorry to ask such a personal monetary question, but I felt like I was reading about my twin with all your back and forths before leaving…I too am over-planning a trip for next fall Smile and am curious about budget. I know that everyone says $50-70 a day, but what has it been for you? Just curious…and by the way, are you still considering Egypt? that would be my dream too…
also, list where you’ve been if you have time!

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cld1474:

Thanks for dropping by. I’m running out of time so I’ll have to answer tomorrow with more details. Egypt is out of the picture, at least for now. Like you, I also want to eat the world in one bite, but there is way too much to see in Europe, and Egypt deserves a trip on it’s own.

As to monetary… Yeah, you can make it on 70 dollars a day, I’m spending around 100 euros every 2 days . But, then again, I am not really taking care of my expenses, I buy lots of postcards, I am compulsive eater (there goes another 10 euros), etc. I don’t party much, so 70 dollars could do it. Not 50 unless you tighten your belt too much, and I personally don;t enjoy travelling like that.

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I ahve a feeling I won’t be able to restrain myself either! Thanks for the info…

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Sorry for the delay.

I’ve been travelling for 2 months now, and still have 4 1/2 weeks to go. I’ve been to Spain (Madrid, Seville, Barcelona), France (Paris, I’m going back to patch that up), Holland (Rotterdam and Amsterdam), Denmark (Copenhagen), Sweden (only Malmo), Italy (Venice, Florence, Siena, Rome), Hungary (Budapest), UK (Manchester, Eyam, Castleton, York, Edinburgh), and I’m in Ireland now, been to Cork and I’m in Dublin at the moment.

My personal favorites have been Copenhagen, Venice, Siena, Eyam, York.

As for the money, it really depends on where you go and what you are up to, and willing to sacrifice. UK is unbelievably expensive, I’m starting to worry now because I’ve spent too much money here on stupid things. For example, entrance to Edinburgh Castle is 9.50 pounds. That doesn’t include the guide, audioguide, whatever. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t regret coming here, actually, I don’t want to leave, but if money is a big issue, then think about it, and the adjustments you’d have to make.

Also, Eastern Europe is dirt cheap, so that could help you balance things out a bit. You may spend 70 dollars here and 30 dollars there, but save up a little more than you had planned.

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The thing about running away is eventually you have to go back and face whatever made you run away. Time is running out, and soon I’ll be there facing my ghosts, and I don’t know if what I left there will be harder to face because it has acumulated moths, fungi, interests, or maybe just faded away. In any case, I’m still frightened.

I’ve wandered too long in Ireland and the UK because I like it, but I’m getting tired, and I need a change. I still have to go to Prague, and I am perfectly aware it is far away, and I’m trying to fit London and maybe Glasgow to see a couple of friends, but I’m burning out my brain searching for cheap flights, especially since I made the mistake of purchasing one to Bruxelles already. Oh, did I mention I’m running out of money?