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Hey guys,
I am a college student who is about to graduate this May. I really want to travel in Europe next summer (2010) before I start grad school and I will hopefully be working all the 2009-2010 year to save up money for it. However, I will still be paying bills like my car ins/payment, gas, etc. I will be living at home so no rent but will be helping out on like the power bill there and such. But also free food courtesy of my mom.
If I plan to be gone around 30-40 days in May-June, how much should I try to save? I know beforehand I will have to buy a plane ticket which will be about $1000 (hopefully less. the tickets for summer 09 around the same dates I want to go are about $800) and a rail pass which would be around $350. But day to day input? Is $70 a day enough? less/more?

Also, I was just wondering, it seems like alot of you are very well traveled and I was just kind of wondering how you all get the money to go on so many trips?? Do you just have a great paying job???

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Is $70 a day enough? less/more?
Probably, but it’s pretty minimal if you’re going to the traditional tourist haunts — the capitals of Western Europe.

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As oldlady said i would try to save up a bit more. I cant speak for everyone, but i don’t particularly have a well paid job. But i am more than happy to sacrifice allot of other small luxuries to afford to travel.

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So I have the same ?. In the case of myself and the person I am traveling with, we are planning to try and camp out as much as possible to try and save on Hostel expenses and are also planning to try and find work for shelter places along the way. Knowing that unexpected things do come up in between plans, I wonder the same. Will $6000 be enough to travel with for 2 and a half months?

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Old lady..I do see you on many of these questions with lots of great info. If 70/80 per day is not enough what would you suggest as a good amount? I have a friend who said he traveled through Europe on $35/day. He did mention however that he did a lot of hitch hiking and that its very easy to do out there as long as you know your etiquette.

Thanks for the help in advance!

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Hitch-hiking isn’t going to help with the $70 a day I was talking about — $70 doesn’t include city to city transportation where hitch-hiking will save money. Your friend probably traveled when the dollar was worth more than the euro, not less like now.

Hostel — check some prices on this site: 20 to 30 euros (about $26 to $39)
Food — how much do you spend at home? Double it for the same food in Europe. You can probably make it on 10 euros ($13) but I’d plan on $15 — and that means no restaurants, or cafes, no coffee in the trendy spots. It’s meals from markets, street vendors, the occasional pub meal, etc.
Partying, beer, club admisssions, etc. — at least as much as you spend at home. It will probably be more expensive than at home if you’re in major cities. For planning purposes I’d double what you spend at home and hope to spend less.
Admissions: $10 per museum, attraction — hope to cut into this with student admissions, free days, etc.
Local transportation: figure $6 per day for buses, trams, subways
Laundry ($10 per week), sundries, supplies, souvenirs, internet fees, phone calls, a tour because it’s the only reasonable way to get to something you’ve always wanted to see, a splurge on a coffee at a sidewalk cafe: ????

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I averaged $100/day when I traveled. That was including hostels, food, drinks, museums and train reservations (did not include my flight or railpass). I eat out a lot, but I did not spend much partying. I stayed in the cheapest hostels I could find as well.

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Hmm..then were you speaking of the rail pass? or just your basic city bus/train/cab?
As far as the hostel cost as I said..we are planning on trying to camp as much as possible but we do realize that things might come up that make it impossible so that way we are trying to save on that cost.
My food cost is literally $40 per week for me so I think Im pretty ok on spending little to be full and fed Smile
I guess what I didnt think about was the museums and parks and such.
You are so wise..I appreciate your help and encouragement to get my thinking wheels working a little further than I am already Smile

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The 6000 that I was going to take with me was aside the cost of the flight and the railpass. So from what you say Im not too far off from making a comfortable budget to travel with..Just another 30/day?

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Hmm..then were you speaking of the rail pass? or just your basic city bus/train/cab?
I don’t consider a railpass “local transportation” as for the most part it doesn’t cover that. Local transportation is city buses, trams, subway, commuter trains. This budget certainly doesn’t cover any cabs. Plan on $50 any time you get into a cab. As Swill mentions, don’t forget the cost of reservations to use with your railpass —5 to 15 euros for each of the express trains you take between cities.
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So from what you say Im not too far off from making a comfortable budget to travel with..Just another 30/day?
Well, $2,280 is way “too far off” for me, but obviously not for you.

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“ Well, $2,280 is way “too far off” for me, but obviously not for you.”

I guess I was looking at it as a per day outlook and not the total

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Thats so weird I had no idea that you needed reservations to use it…so its $$$ to buy the thing and then more to use it….huh

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The vast majority of trains don’t require reservations. Most reservations are cheap, 4 or 5 euros. However, the express trains between major cities usually require reservations and reservations on the premier trains like Thalys, EurostarItalia, etc. can be fairly expensive. Unless you make a serious effort to avoid the trains that require reservations by taking slightly slower local and regional trains, and traveling at “off peak” times you’re going to end up on a some trains that require reservations.

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Yeah, Thalys reservations between Paris and Amsterdam are about 25 euros (round-trip) if you have a Eurail pass. But other trains like between Paris and smaller places around it don’t need reservations, depends on the train.

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Yeah, Thalys reservations between Paris and Amsterdam are about 25 euros (round-trip) if you have a Eurail pass.
There are supposed to be special “passholder” reservations available for 13 euros in 2nd class (if your pass covers both France and Benelux), but these often sell out. Further, sometimes the reservation office in the train station is actually an independent travel agent, not a railroad office, and they don’t sell passholder reservations. You can avoid the thalys trains between Paris to Amsterdam by traveling via Lille and Roosendaal, but that’s 2 connections and at least an extra hour in transit.

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well, we booked our reservations for the thalys about a week and a half before our trip so they probably sold out before then. (we had a france-benelux pass) The train ride was long enough without going any detours, tbh, about 4 hours, so I’d gladly pay a little more to get there faster, but that’s just my opinion.

(Of course I sleep on trains alot, but anything longer than my nap limit, which is about 2.5 hours, and I get bored real fast, not to mention often motion sick. I managed to stay awake until we got to Brussels and then woke up about 3/4 of the way to Amsterdam and got to see a bit of Dutch countryside and windmills. This is also why I hate long flights that aren’t at night… my flight back from france was in the middle of the day and nearly 10 hours long… SO BORING, even though I probably slept a good 4 hours of it.)

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whoa I am going to have to get a notepad and take these notes down..I did start a journal for all this planning so that I can reference that directly as well…it helps

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I’ve always heard, take twice as much money and half as much stuff as you think you’ll need. I think it’s a good proverb to live by, lol.

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Well then..I guess the challenge has gotten a bit more intense since I have 3 months before I plan to take off to my trip!

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so if ur not using a railpass how much is the ticket from 1 country to another?
i was told by a good friend who travels alot that if u want to save the money u pay in hostils u can just use the train to sleep in which i am planing to do

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Fireslayer — you need to post your questions in the appropriate forum — not tack them on to an old post that’s kinda/sorta related. This specific question should be in the “transport” forum. Given the countries you say you want to visit, a railpass will probably save you money over point to point tickets, but you need to have a very specific itinerary (including dates) in order to figure it out. To find the prices for individual train tickets, you need to go the website for the national rail company in each country. The easiest one to use is the German site: http://reiseauskunft… It’s also the best to use for schedules anywhere in Europe, but you can only find prices on that site if at least part of the route is in Germany. The French site is sncf.com and the Italian site is trenitalia.com