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Well, there is, but if you have limited time in Italy, I suggest skipping Pisa.

And seriously, folks, let’s stop resurrecting these ancient threads.


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If you have something fresh to say why not restart an old thread? I’d agree with Pisa…while the leaning tower and neary buildings are interesting, the city as a whole is a bit dull. Take a photo with the tower and then leave as soon as possible

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Agreed…I’d rather people resurrect old threads than create 3089134890 threads every other day about the same thing Smile

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ashilay wrote:

I would have to say Kusadasi Turkey. It was dirty, crowded and and boring. I wouldn’t say that it was dissapointing as it was only a stop on our way to Ephesus but it was definitely my least favorite place in Europe.

Except it’s not in Europe, Kusadasi is in Asia and so is Ephesus.

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Technically, you’re right Papyr, but Turkey lies partly on the European mainland (even if it’s a very small part), and for travel-related purposes (and often times politically), the entire country is classified as Europe.


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I have to say i thought Venice was the most over hyped city, i found it to be very dirty and it didn’t smell the best. it may or may not have something to do i puked off of every bridge in the city

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I loved France and Switzerland…Germany was a little disappointing ,but on the whole Europe is a wonderful destination when one has the moneys to back it up…

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travelbag wrote:
I loved France and Switzerland…Germany was a little disappointing ,but on the whole Europe is a wonderful destination when one has the moneys to back it up…

Haha… how can you write off a whole country so easily?

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Milan:
It may be the fashion cpaital of the world, but un;ess yuou’re willing to plunk down $1000 for a handbag, you aren’t welcome in any stores…in fact most have security guards to keep out backpackers, etc.

Vienna:
I’d go for a piece of sacher torte, but that’s about it. Found it supper expensive, unfriendly and generally dull

Mona Lisa In the Louvre: you’ll line for hours to look at a small painting (31“x 21”) hidden behind a sheet bullet proof glass that does a better job of reflecting your own image that the painting behind it. Far better peices in the Louvre.

Luxembourg: Possibly the dullest city in europe. Full of government offices. Once the offices close for the day, there is no one around. Becomes a ghost town after 5 p.m.

Spain and Portugal: If you are a woman travelling alone or in a group, expect to be harassed constantly. Men will literally follow around, grab you in bars, etc. The treat their mothers and sisters like saints, but think all single north american women are nymphomaniacs

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I pretty much agree with finnegan (somewhat of a surprise)…
Milan: my sentiments, exactly although the cathedral is worth a stroll and as an opera buff I enjoyed the La Scala museum. _The Last Supper _ is next to impossible to see without some serious advanced planning.
Vienna: Also my experience — there’s got to be somebody who’s friendly and something that’s fun, but I missed it.
Mona Lisa: For sure
Luxembourg: I kinda disagree. It’s not the most exciting place in Europe, but I thought it was interesting to stroll around for a day. It must be kid-friendly ‘cuz it was crawling with families with little kids.
Spain and Portugal: Don’t really agree, but I can see the possibility… I’ve never been to Portugal, and I didn’t have any real trouble in Spain. However, my one experience of being grabbed on the street was in Seville — with police officers and uniformed soldiers, who weren’t at all disturbed by my problem, nearby.

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I think the Mona Lisa is worth a glimpse, just to say you’ve seen it in person, as it is arguably the most famous painting in the world. We didn’t have to fight too hard/wait too long to get to see her either, maybe 15 minutes to work our way to front of the crowd all around her. And we went on a Friday night when it’s free for young people, so the Louvre was pretty full. I mean, it’s definitely not the most impressive thing in the museum by any means, but I think it’s neat to say you’ve seen it.
However, the Venus de Milo, which is the other really huge thing at the Louvre that everyone knows about, is not really impressive at all. There are way more beautiful statues throughout the Louvre.

One other thing in Paris which isn’t that impressive: the top of the Arc de triomphe. Save your money and just walk around the base of it (use the underground walkway, people die quite often trying to cross the roundabout there). That’s where the cool stuff is anyway, like the tomb of the unknown soldier. You can get better views of the city from the top of the Eiffel tower and Notre Dame. Plus, no elevators there either, as the French don’t really believe in them… again, save your money for more interesting climbs like the Notre Dame bell towers.

Another city I wasn’t incredibly impressed with is Amsterdam. Maybe this is because it rained the entire time we were there, so it was kind of dark and gloomy, but it just seemed really dirty and unpleasant. The trams are kinda crappy, it’s really hard to hear what stop they are announcing esp. if you know no Dutch, and the maps are sort of confusing. Also, the museums there are really expensive, don’t give student discounts, AND won’t let you take pictures (Rijksmuseum, Anne Frank House, Van Gogh Museum, to name a few).
Things I did enjoy about Amsterdam though: the sex museum (only 3 euros, pics allowed, and HILARIOUS), Dam square, Madame Tussauds, and the red light district. Also, that there are hardly any cars on the roads. Dutch people are super nice too. Overall, it was okay for a single visit, but I doubt I’ll be going again. I’d like to check out some other places in Holland instead.

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I love Spain, but the big cities do have a fair bit of crime (mostly car break-ins, purse snatching, etc. – everyone blames the gypsies). Spain is definitely a macho country, and it can come across as sexist from time to time.

Naples: by far the dirtiest city in europe. May have been nice once, but not now. Has the same charm as Niagara Falls, New York.

Bari, Italy: The only reason to go here is to catch a ferry to Greece. Can be quite busy in the summer. Also a lot of scammers selling phoney ferry tickets so beware.

Biarritz: went there once (not sure why). I think it may have been a fancy place once, but it sucks now. Water is frigid, beaches are rocky and the people are unfriendly

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If that was a positive, it’s got to be the first wax museum you’ve ever seen. If there was ever a “if you’ve seen one you’ve seen them all” it would be a wax museum.

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I don’t think any place has been disappointing, but these places would probably come the closest…

Vallodolid, Spain: This place doesn’t exactly have a reputation to live up to, but it reminded me of Worcester, Massachusetts… that is not a good comparison.

Herceg-Novi, Montenegro: I should have just gone to Kotor.

Geneva, Switzerland: Not a BAD place persay, but geez, the pasty white walls of my office are more exciting then anything going on here.

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luv_the_beach wrote:
Technically, you’re right Papyr, but Turkey lies partly on the European mainland (even if it’s a very small part), and for travel-related purposes (and often times politically), the entire country is classified as Europe.
Not by Europeans LTB Wink

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If that was a positive, it’s got to be the first wax museum you’ve ever seen. If there was ever a “if you’ve seen one you’ve seen them all” it would be a wax museum.
Seconded.

If you thought Madame Tussauds was a plus about Amsterdam than I have no idea where you went.

That said, I agree Amsterdam is not spectacular but then, I grew up there so too me it’s just home and I’ve seen it all.

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Barcelona was such a dissapointment! i would not recomend it to ANYONE! Full of rude tourists, theives and a particular brand of sapnish who feel its ok to look down their nose at coustomers!

if in sapin i would recomend taragona – just a 2 hour drive south of barcelona. A nice town with beautiful buldings and lovely people!

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I have not had too many disappointments.
But Bayeux, France was definitely one of them.
DO NOT miss the Tapestry. It is well worth it.
Just do not stay in Bayeux. It is crowded and over-priced.

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Mannekin Piis in Brussels: I knmow it’s the national symbol of Belgium, but it’s just a small statue of a boy peeing…It’s tucked away down an alley amongst a bunch of souvenir shops. Waste of time

“Coffeshops” in Amsterdam…whoopee…you can buy and smoke weed in a coffeeshop. Ummm most 13 year olds have no problem getting their hands on weed these days so what’s the big deal. Most Coffeeshops are dirty and the weed ain’t that great. Boooring. Better choice would be a Brown Cafe.

Folie Bergeres in Paris: Strictly for seniors on a bus tour. It may have been exotic in the early 1900’s but now has about as much sizzle as a Wayne Newton show in Vegas. Expensive and not worth the time.

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Yeah I never understood the appeal of friggen “coffeeshops” in Amsterdam, either. You’re right man, if you are all about getting loaded in Amsterdam, you likely have no trouble getting drugs here anyway, so what’s the big deal?

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Feicht wrote:
Yeah I never understood the appeal of friggen “coffeeshops” in Amsterdam, either. You’re right man, if you are all about getting loaded in Amsterdam, you likely have no trouble getting drugs here anyway, so what’s the big deal?

heh
I did not even bother with those.
Of course, this was back in the 70’s.Wink