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NY/NJ Specials - to London
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Anything going on for the week of the 18th, 2007?

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I used outbound July 18 and return July 25. Cheapest I see:
American, $731. www.aa.com
Delta $738, www.delta.com
BA, $757 www.ba.com
Zoom, $756. The return with Zoom on 25th is upgraded to premium economy. www.flyzoom.com
All of these are nonstop, except Zoom has a stop back on the 25th.

By the way, how was your last flight? Was it Air India or Zoom or another? Would love to hear your impressions of the airline, since I’ve never flown either of those.

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Funny, you would ask. I deliberately avoided Zoom for their outdated aircrafts and the overhead screen. The quickest availability was AirIndia which also gave us a 2 one way tickets and with reasonable pricings.
 
I asked for my usual seating but instead they gave me seats exactly in front of the big screen. Since the flight was empty, I moved to a smaller seat and the flight was ok.
 
The funny thing about AirIndia is the flight leaves somewhere around 8 pm and by the time the crew gets ready to start serving it is usually around 10:30 pm. By the time they get to you, it is around 11:00 pm and by the time dinner is served it is somewhere between 12 to 1 am.
Mark my words, all the time I have flown in AirIndia you basically have to starve to death before they serve you.
 
For once in a lifetime, my limo had arived much ahead then scheduled and for obvious reasons, I had a nice meal before entering the boarding area.
 
With AirIndia, I always like their offers of unlimited beer and wine very unusual for others. As a matter of fact, when the hostess comes to serve you, they would ask if you wanted one or two. Whats interesting is everytime I have flown AirIndia, this has always been the case.
 
Food was also quite good and they served lamb. When I opened the lamb there was no lamb so when i showed it to the hostess, she made sure, she gave me chicken as well as lamb on the side. They are pretty liberal in these aspects. Again all the time.
 
I am flying back home tommorow but will be returning on the next available cheap flight.
 
In the afternoon I dropped by on a travel agent in Central London and the cheapest flight available from London Heathrow to JFK/EWR was 429.00 GBP one way where as I had purchased a one way from JFK to LHR for 400.00 USD.
I am going to spend the next few days looking for 3 tickets.

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Now some words on my return trip on AirIndia.
 
After checking in at Heathrow, I was told that the flight is delayed for some time with no explanation provided. After clearing the security, the air traffic monitor indicated :Just Wait:
 
After about 30 minutes, I realised that the wait is still on, I went to some of the reps who started laughing and indicated that this is AirIndia and a 3 hour delay is normal and if the flight ever came in time, then that is what I should be worried. I thought this was a joke but to my disbelief, this slight delay turned out to be a 4 hour waiting nightmare without a possible hint.
 
If there was specifcs, then i coud have connected myself with the T-Mobile Hotspots.
 
Food on my return was nothing to brag about. My overhead lights didn’t function and the overhead screen lights couldn’t get me to sleep.
 
Now I have to start looking for a return to London on the 20th, 2007.

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Don,
I saw a special on Hotwire for 735.00 RT all inclusive and when i tried to buy it the final price was 956.00 Unbeleiveable,
Has anyone seen price variations like this?

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I have been making calls to the travel agents and the cheapest airfare I am being told is 1000.00+ leaving on the 20th from Newark/New York and return on the 31st.
 
Has anyone seen any specials? Just too expensive.

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Just checked again for you.

Zoom is now $598 total.
Delta $739
American $744
BA $770

These are available seats that can be booked direct from the airline’s website.
www.flyzoom.com
www.ba.com
www.aa.com
www.delta.com
These are total prices with taxes included. No additional booking fees.

Be sure to book today or tomorrow. Once you’re inside 7 days before departure, Delta, BA, and American increase at least $200 in this case. Zoom stays the same.

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Thank you very much,
 
Besides my tickets, i also need 2 one way ticket returning from London to NY same time with me. Is there any way to ensure or book it over the website with all the three tickets.

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[sammo, I just posted the info that follows, and then noticed that you posted yesterday that you’re now looking at the 20th to the 31st. Oh well, I showed my work, so you give ‘em a try too, and hopefull you can come up with something better]


Yeah, but I’d try to book the roundtrip from New York to London separately from the 2 one-ways back with you. You can always get seats together when you choose your seats online, or at checkin. Let’s see who’s cheapest on the one-ways back, because that might be the deciding factor on which airline to go with (?).

I checked ITA (cheapest: Continental $612 via Ireland), Zoom (£571.00 total for 2 one-way tickets, £285.50 each), Farecompare (Aer Lingus $626 each, 2 stops; Air India $758 each, nonstop), Kuwait Airways (not available until 31 July, £433 each).

I know you don’t like Zoom, but it looks like they’re the least expensive option in this case.

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Don,
I am having quite a bit of trouble seeing those prices you are quoting in your message.
BA if flying on the 23rd and return on the 31st provides the cheapest at 842.22. If I chose to stick to my dates, it is coming to over 900.00+.
 
Last minute.com indicates pricing between BA, Virgin and US Air ranging at 880.00 level all inclusive. Still over my budget.
 
Zoom: have the website open with the seats unsold indicating 628.65 for economy and 827.15 for premium economy.
 
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Delta also came out higher but I am trying it now. On the 2nd try, the cheapest I am getting is 1105.00 and that includes a stoppver in Cinncinati.
 
AA is coming up at 1089.10
 
It seems like Zoom is still the cheapest. I saw the planes and they look quite old.
 
I agree, it seems Zoom is the way out. Frown[image]http://www.eurotrip.com/forum/micons/m14.gif[/image]
 

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And I’m not sure which ones you’re referring to. Do you mean you can’t find the one-ways at the prices I found, or the round trips? In your last message, is that in dollars or pounds? Per person, or just for 2 travelling one-way LON-NYC?

Let me walk you through with me exactly how I get these prices:

I just went to AA.com.
I typed in from NYC to LON.
I used July 23 departure, with July 31 return—the dates you said in your last reply.
Next page at AA.com, I clarified that I wanted it to search all New York airports, and all London airports.
It returned a base fare of $581.
I clicked on that fare.
I selected the nonstop flight options.
I continued without logging in.
The total price for 1 adult roundtrip economy class ticket for this itinerary currently shows available for $744.40 USD.
I did not enter passenger details, because that would reserve this ticket in whatever name I give them.

What about the Zoom planes seems quite old to you? Curious.

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When I arrived at LHR, I noticed the Zoom aircrafts waiting at their terminals and they looked considerably old and small. I am absolutely sure, they were not 747 so perhaps this was one of their local planes. Thats why I kind of got little disheartened thinking can i really fly on these planes?
 
But considering how cheap they are, I am now reconsidering to take this plane itself.
 
Let me review AA and get back. My colleague indicates Kayak is advertising AA at 775.00 RT – not sure about the taxes.

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Zoom are flying Boeing 767s on their New York-London route.

You might inform your colleague that you can save $31 per ticket by booking direct from AA.com—taxes included, as stated previously.

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Don,
 
I found the tkts but having quite a bit of trouble with buying the additional one way tkt returning on the same flight.
My ticket RT is 774.25 where as just the
One way from LHR to JFK is 928.00
 
I don’t seem to understand why and how a One way is more expensive than a RT. Can you shed some light into this? I am going to drag my feet untill I find something reasonable. I know I have to fly to Tunisia from London but have to get my returns confirmed.
 
I am pushing my flying dates either earlier or later.

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Is 767 smaller than 777? They look really small and with the sky blue and ocean blue background, they looked like one of those island hoping Fokker Friendship.
Am I correct?

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767 is a medium- to long-range widebody jet. Typically in economy, there are 2 aisles with 7 seats across, normally 2 × 3 × 2 which is nice, because there’s only 1 in 7 chance of being stuck in a middle seat even with a full flight. Delta, for example, fly 767s on New York to Budapest, Paris, Copenhagen. Next to an Airbus 330 or 340, or Boeing 777 or 747, it does look smaller, but it’s bigger than the 757, which is a single-aisle narrowbody aircraft that fly from northeast US to UK, Ireland, Lisbon, and northern Germany with Continental, for example. The 767 has a longer range than 757, and as a widebody aircraft with 2 aisles, it’s more comfortable on long flights.

Re: one way vs. roundtrip, it’s not uncommon for o/w to cost more. It might be eligible for an upgrade to business, since it’s booked in a less-restrictive fare class. But there’s nothing stopping you from booking the round-trip, and just not using the return portion.

I think you’re getting a higher price than me at AA.com because you’re trying to book more than 1 ticket? If so, you can book 1, then book another separately, then pick seats next to each other (if that’s what you want).

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I have the same price as yours. the situation is i fly from
EWR/JFK to London and when I return my other half returns back with me and she only needs one way. That is my problem. I went to opodo for her but nothing sort of 900 GBP.
I am looking for other sites to see if I can find a reasonable fare for her, so i can book on the same flight. sucks isn’t it.

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Consolidators such as www.flights.com www.economytravel.co… www.travelselect.com and www.airdeals.com often have one-ways cheaper. There are consolidators on www.bookingbuddy.com ‘s search, too (AllCheapFares, ATI, FlyCheapAbroad, and a few more) so try a one-way search LON-NYC via Bookingbuddy, too.

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Don, How do you manage to keep yourself updated with so much info. Are you in the airline industry? I have been on Eurotrip for the longest time and god knows how many times you have come up with responses.
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Hah! Thanks. I’m the king of multi-tasking (which is why I lose some of the details sometimes!). Of course my goal is to help people figure it out on their own, with the right tools and maybe some guidance along the way. I don’t work in the industry, but if I could get a job paying as well as I’m used to, doing the exact same thing, I’d definitely consider it.

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Don,
Looking at the flight details on Air Lingus, it says food for purchase. Does this mean I have to purchase food separately?

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I don’t know. This might help: http://www.airlinequ…

It’s fairly common inside of Europe to have to pay for any food or beverage on flights. Only long-haul I’m aware of that charges is Globespan (and the Canadian low-cost airlines? and Condor?). I do recall Aer Lingus transitioned, supposedly, to a “low-cost” airline after 9-11. Of course, not nearly as low-cost as Ryanair out of Dublin, but still much cheaper than they were pre 9-11—especially on European routes.

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Finally, I have booked through Zoom
 
RT from JFK to LGW – 648.65 including tx flying on the 19th and return on July 30th. Flying on the 20th and return on the 31st makes it much higher. Seats are absolutely non-refundable even it is an emergency. They advise you to take cancellation insurance.
Call to reconfirm shoudl be made 12 hours before the flight.
 
I also purchased the one way from LGW to JFK at 675.00 same flight coming back includes an infant sitting on a lap.
 
Its really a good price considering that I went through agents after agents both in UK and US as well as all the websites.
Thanks for all your help.
 
Now my next focus will be renting the flat out in London.
 

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