Martinair also flies from Vancouver to Amsterdam.
 
I saw a cheap Orbitz fare a couple years ago where you had some other airline from SEA-YVR, the Martinair flight, and then a YVR-SEA flight. It was cheaper than the Martinair flight by itself from Vancouver.

Don:  I have seen Iceland Air mentioned – on & off.  They don’t seem to have sales and low fares on a regular basis.  However, I do hear they are an excellent Customer Svc carrier…

Topping this with a few tweaks and updates.

I just noticed Emirates with JFK-Hamburg in October for $400rt total with taxes; Jet Airways $482 JFK-Geneva rt with taxes incl.

Does anyone know of one of these overlooked airlines that fly from Dallas (DFW) to Europe? Or what cities would be cheapest for Dallas? I am trying to get to Europe during spring break March 15-22ish.

Hi Don,
It has been a while since I have been on this site, as I had back surgery so I have been out of commission.
 
I know that you like us all to read back into the discussion before posting, so I believe this might the right posting.
 
Are there any Cheap Upstarts this summer, like the old VG Airline or City Bird.  Usually about every two years, one pops up that charges you an “introductory fare” that lasts through out the summer.    As you know, because of the demise of Sabena, these airlines usually fly from JFK or Newark to Brussels.  I believe the Sabena issue is the reason, but you never know, you just always end up in Brussels, which to pick up a budget airline, is not a very bad place to be, although since Virgin Express merged it is a little more expensive but you can find deals and Brussels is by far the easiest airport where you can pick up at baggage claims simply take the elevator up one flight and rechecked to European airline.
 
Of course when I say these “introductory fares” it usually is the fare that is given before the airline for the most part goes “belly up.”  I remember about 5 years ago on VG I paid $350 RT, plus because it was an upstart, the luxury of having your own row to sleep in.    The days of those prices are gone, while not the fare, but now the fuel surcharge.
 
Still, Don, and whomever else knows of any of these upstarts that get you from NY to the continent like Brussels can you let us know?  I usually fly traditional through the year, but in the summer, these upstarts which seem like charters are the best deal on earth.
 
I know this is going to be a difficult year because of open skies, and so far it seems to have been a nightmare.  Open Skies begins today and Heathrow Terminal 5 for BA, was to open to accommodate everyone flying to Heathrow.   Well if you read the paper over the last few days, it is really a nightmare Terminal 5. It seems they did not test it enough.  
 
What I was shocked about is Heathrow only has two airstrips.  With open skies, you would think they would try to add two more.  But this is Britian and with the high taxes it is difficult to get things.  My countrymen have found throwin tea into the harbor the best way to get the British attention.
 
Anyway. I see from your list you have serveral no frills airlines, but is there going to be a big deal this summer.
 
Also, when is someone going to come to conclusion that they could buy one plane from the airport graveyard in Tuscon and fly it back and forth from JFk to Stanstead and make deals with airlines on both sides.  Ryan Air obviously is staking out their claim, but up until American starting flying to Stanstead, the only interest anyone has every had for Standstead was the Manhattan affect, where you had the wealthiest of the wealth landing there, and the poorest of the poor “living there too.”  I still do not understand why businessmen have been convince to fly to Standstead when it takes about an hour to get to central London but for Heathrow it is 15 minutes to Paddington. 
 
With the budget traveler, alll the flights to other parts of Europe seem to leave between 6am and 10 am in the morning and then 8-11 at night.  Off peak, which is hard for the budget traveler because there is not a lot for them there and the train does not run early enought to catch the early flights.  But a plane leaving JFK for Stanstead at around 4pm would get you to Standstead in time to catch the early flights to the rest of Europe.
 
So if someone started an airline with one flight to Stanstead feeing allthese “Feeder and no frills airline” they could make a fortune by advertising more citites than Stanstead.   In fact, both City Bird and VG did not have a code share with Virgin Express, but as a “Courtesy” they would book you on continuing departures.  Quite honestly, when I went to Rome for the first time with my parents’ we saw these incredible fares to Brussels on City Bird, but that was all they advertised.  When we called to see if they had domestic service inside the EU, they offered Virigin to Rome for $50 more each way, just no luggage transfer.    That was the way to do it.
 
So after putting my 2 cents in, which is worthless, now that the dollar is like Monopoly money, is there any big “no frills” or “upstart” carriers this summer, or has opened skies ruined the possibility because everyone has a “wait and see atittude?

A quick update to add 2 new airlines:

Jetairfly, Orlando Sanford (not Orlando International) to Brussels, July and Aug 2008: http://www.jetairfly…

Air One, Boston and Chicago to Milan: http://www.flyairone…

Yep, they stopped this past winter. I’ll tweak the info above when I get a chance…. They have added Toronto.