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Hi, I’m sorry if such thread was ever written before but I need your help.

We are a group of five 21yearolds and we want to make a trip to:

Brussels>Amsterdam>Berlin>Prague.

After we’ll take a bus to Amst. and stay there for about a week,
we wanted to take a night rail(with sleepers)to Berlin, and a few nights later do
the very same arrangement to Prague.

As we looked for night trains with sleepers(23/11/09) the cost was 132 EURO’s !!!
I’m sorry but this just doesn’t make much sence to me, and I don’t know who to ask
if the bahn site is foolin’ me.
132 Euro is just far far far too much.

Note – The reasons we wanted NIGHT trains were – 1/To not waste 10 hours of the day in a train.
2/To save ourselves another night @ night hostel.

I have to know, are these the legit prices for such rides ?
And if so, is there other way to get a decent sleep while traveling and not
waste so much money ?
We do not mind taking a longer ride(10 hours etc.) as long as we can somehow get some
sleep.

Please, for those who understand, help us out.

Thanks.

I am leaving from Tel Aviv,Israel with $2500 for 15 days
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1. Amsterdam to Berlin is not a short trip and unless you find a special it won’t be cheap. Further, you’re traveling on Sunday — one of the most popular days for overnight trains.
2. The 126 euros you found appears to be the standard fare. I found a special for 43 euros on your date on the German site: http://reiseauskunft… Check the Netherlands site for other possibilities. http://www.ns.nl/en
3. Have you looked for a cheap flight for this leg of your trip?

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Hi oldlady, actually the date is Monday not Sunday(Nov. 23rd @ Night).
I found that 43 euro’s deal aswell, altough it is called “Saving Fare” and I believe
it has some catch, I read about it awhile back and as far as I understood it wasn’t
meant for us, don’t recall why excatly..

And about flight, we rather not fly as we prefer to sleep our way to Berlin and
save ourselves a motel for the night, also I’m pretty sure that flights will be more
expensive than trains, even the lowcost ones ..

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I think this idea of saving on a night’s accommodation by taking a train (probably a more expensive one) may not work out that well. Hostel accommodation in Berlin is pretty cheap.

The only drawback of a 43-Euro train ride is that you generally cannot change nor refund the ticket.

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1. If a non-refundable special isn’t for you, then you’re going to have an expensive train ticket.

2. I would not assume that a flight will be more expensive than the train without checking. I found 56 euros for your date on Transylvania Air. You might find significantly cheaper prices if you leave from Brussels (22 euros on EasyJet) or somewhere else that’s easy to get to from Amsterdam. However, this has the same problem as the specials on the train — you must buy in advance and the tickets aren’t refundable.

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I’m sorry but I have to ask this,
maybe I’m lost in translation, but “non-refundable” means that if I regret
and I want to cancel my arrival, I can’t, and that’s it ?
Cause that’s fine with me.

If there’s another definition for “non-refundable”, please, enlight me.

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Yes, you’re right about “non-refundable.” We probably over-emphasized the issue since that seems to be the only disadvantage of the 43 euro special price. One of the major advantages of traveling by train is that it’s very flexible. If you want to sleep later or spend an extra hour at a museum, you generally just hop on the next train—often without any additional cost although you sometimes have to spend 4 or 5 euros for another reservation. There are 1 to 3 trains every hour between many major cities.

Special fares often allow no refunds and no changes — so if you miss your specific (exact date and time) train or decide you want to stay in Amsterdam an hour longer, you’ll forfeit the entire price you paid for the ticket and reservation plus you will have to buy a new ticket and reservation for the next train. Same is true for bargain airlines.

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Okay, so one LAST question there(I hope Smile

Just for confirmation –

The cheaper tickets(29-59 euro’s)gives you the very same service as the 100+ euro’s tickets,
only that IF I BUY A CHEAPER ONE THEN I HAVE TO TAKE ONE SPECIFIC TRAIN
AT ONE SPECIFIC TIME OR ELSE IT’S GOING TO THE TRASH, and that’s it ?
that’s the ONLY catch ?

cause if so, we’re triggering the booking, just give me the word.
Thanks.

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Quote:
The cheaper tickets(29-59 euro’s)gives you the very same service as the 100+ euro’s tickets,
only that IF I BUY A CHEAPER ONE THEN I HAVE TO TAKE ONE SPECIFIC TRAIN
AT ONE SPECIFIC TIME OR ELSE IT’S GOING TO THE TRASH, and that’s it ?
that’s the ONLY catch ?
Yes, that about sums it up. Look at the type of reservation as sometimes the cheapest prices are for regular seats as opposed to couchette berths. Special pricing for couchette berths will usually be available for about 10 euros more than the price for seats.

You’ll want to book right away as specials often sell out. You might find that only 2 or 3 seats (or berths) are available at the special fare. Pricing for these specials is like pricing for airlines — a limited number of seats are priced really cheap. Once those sell out the price goes up.