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Been Discussing with oldlady about rail passes/ticket prices and what not. I will paste everything here so others can read and hopefully help or learn.

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I put it this Itinerary in both of them

Brussels
Bruges
Paris
Munich
Ljubljana
Zagreb
Dubrovnik
Sarajevo
Budapest
Bratislava
Prague
Berlin
Amsterdam
It then gave me these 2 options

• Eurail 4 Country Austria/Benelux/France/Germany 6 Day 2nd Class Youth Select pass
• In addition, expect to pay about $105.75 per person in city-to-city tickets.

-Eurail 5 Country Austria/Benelux/France/Germany/Croatia-Slovenia 8 Day 2nd Class Youth Select pass US$undefined
-European East 6 Day 2nd Class Adult FlexiPass US$239.00
-Ticket(s) US$8.25 n/a

Now when it says city-to-city tickets thats approx. how much I would spend going to the rest of my itinerary outside of my eurail pass? Seems too little. Im sure I am just doing something wrong.
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If cost is the only criteria, I would probably go for the 4 country option. Rail tickets are cheap in Slovenia and Croatia and the price of adding a 5th country is based on more expensive travel in Western Europe. I generally don’t think a European East pass is worth it since the price of that is based on a route which is heavily in Austria, Hungary and Poland which are somewhat more expensive than Czech Rep, Slovakia and the Balkans, although in your case it might be worth it since you’re covering a lot of territory in Eastern Europe. Also, there are no trains South of Split on the Croatian coast, so you will be taking the bus at least part of the way to Dubrovnik in any case and bus is sometimes a better option than rail in the Balkans. However if the extra countries and 2 extra days don’t add a lot to the cost, then the extra flexibility and extra days might be worth the extra cost.

Are you sure your prices are right? A 5 country 8 day youth select pass is $442 US. A 4 country 6 day is $ 350.

I don’t understand your question. The combination of the recommended railpasses and point to point tickets should cover all your city to city transportation except Split to Dubrovnik and perhaps part of the route to Sarajevo. I’d guess $50 or less would cover that. The only other issue would be day trips and those trips that might be partially covered by the railpass. For example, the portions from Austrian border to Ljubljana and Prague to German Border would not be covered in some options, but should be in the $20 to $25 US range. Most would be short distances, so cheap tickets although day trips in France, Benelux and Germany can sometimes get pricy if you end up on premier trains — thus a couple of extra days might help.

End result of all this is that you probably can’t know for sure in advance which railpass and combination of point to point tickets is best.

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I was referring to how the railsaver says expect to pay X amount in city-to-city tickets. So the eurail pass would be used in the 4 countries and the X amount would be toward the of my transportation. I will start posting in the forums and copy paste this for everyone to read.

Anyone feel free to chime in and/or discuss

I am leaving from Detroit, MI with $7000 for 84 days
Bruges, Brussels, Paris, Munich, Zagreb, Dubrovnik, Sarajevo, Budapest, Vienna, Prague, Berlin, Amsterdam, London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Belfast, Dublin
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Hi RDX

First Option:

buy ticket from brussels to Brugge at Station I think it’s somewhere around $20
Buy an at least 30 day advance Thalys ticket from Brugge to Paris = $35 (same if going from brussels) (www.thalys.com)
Right now raileurope.com/.ca has a select pass promotion of 7 days for the price of 6 with that
get the 7 day 5 Country Select pass for $418
Pass breakdown (this is what I figured out)
Day 1: Munich to Villach, Austria (then buy a ticket from Villach to Zagreb should be at most $80)
Day 2: Budapest to Vienna
Day 3: Vienna to Prague
Day 4: Prague to Berlin
Day 5: Berlin to Amsterdam
Day 6: Amsterdam to Brussels (I take it you taking a Eurostar train to London)
Day 7: is open

Option 2:

Benelux/Germany Pass 5 day Youth Pass = $269
European East Pass (Covers Austria, Czech Rep., Hungary, Poland, Slovak Rep.) 5 days = $224
Advance (at least 30 days) ticket from Thalys.com – Brugge or Brussels to Paris = $35
Purchase a Night train ticket Paris to Munich (from www.bahn.de) = roughly $90-$100 (6 Couchette includes reservation)
if you don’t mind being on a train for a day you can get a 35 Euro ticket from Munich to Zagreb otherwise there is a night train that according to raileurope.ca is about $167 but from what i have been told you can get it cheaper if you buy from the station. Anything for Croatia and Bosnia buy at the station.
in Total :
Rail Passes = $493 for 10 day in total
Advanced Purchased Tickets = $135 unless you include Munich to Zagreb = $302 at most
plus addtional city to city tickets covering Croatia and Bosnia

my breakdown of the passes would be something like this
Benelux/Germany Pass:
Day 1: Brugge to Brussels or vice versa
Day 2: Dresden to Berlin (Buy at Station Prague to Dresden)
Day 3: Berlin to Amsterdam
Day 4: Amsterdam to Brussels
Day 5: is open

European East Pass:
Day 1: Salzburg to Villach
Day 2: Budapest to Vienna
Day 3: Vienna to Prague
Day 4: is open
Day 5: is open

I hope this will give you some ideas

I am leaving from Montreal with $3000 for 34 days
Paris, Salzburg, Kraków, Berchtesgaden, Vaduz, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Bruges, Paris
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You should be able to get the same special that raileurope offers on a rail pass from any travel agency that sells rail passes — including this site. It is extremely rare for an agency to offer a deal or discount that isn’t available regardless of where you buy the pass. This site guarantees low price, so should match raileurope’s price.

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I wasn’t trying to say that it wasn’t anywhere else. I was just stating the website in which I found the “actual wording” for the promotion. No where on this site does it say anything about that promotion. and if “It is extremely rare for an agency to offer a deal or discount that isn’t available regardless of where you buy the pass” then why doesn’t this site offer the European East Pass. I looked everywhere for it and couldn’t find it. Also as an example this site doesn’t offer the Benelux/Germany Pass with a 2nd class saver option and although I know that it is the same price as the youth pass because I have done my research with other sites, other people will not and i can’t take the chance that on the pass somewhere it says youth and then I get screwed over in the long run.
Although I was originally going to buy my passes from this site I can’t due to the fact that it doesn’t have European East Pass, I can’t select the 2nd Class Saver Benelux/Germany pass. and the fact that since I have over $400 worth of products cause I am buying for 2 people I also get free shipping and no exchange rate costs if I buy with raileurope. Every Dollar counts right.

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I believe this site only sells the basic eurail passes — not the one and two country passes or the European East pass (some of which aren’t technically “eurail” passes as they’re offered by the national rail companies in the countries involved as opposed to the eurail group). You could e-mail them at rail@eurotrip.com to see if they sell passes in addition to the ones they offer on this site.

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van- just send an email to the address that oldlady posted above and they’ll help you out Smile You can also check out our sister site http://www.railsaver… .

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Thanks guys for the help. One more question though. If I were to buy the select pass and say I chose germany/austria. If I wanted to go from Munich to slovenia that can count as a day correct? I do not have to purchase any other ticket? Only time I would have to buy seperate ticket would be if I was passing through a country not chosen?

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Bruges, Brussels, Paris, Munich, Zagreb, Dubrovnik, Sarajevo, Budapest, Vienna, Prague, Berlin, Amsterdam, London, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Belfast, Dublin
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If your pass doesn’t cover Slovenia, you’d have to buy a ticket from the Austrian border to your destination in Slovenia. A rail day is a calendar day, midnight to midnight — with a special provision where most overnight trains only count as one day (arrival day) even though you travel on two different days. If you make it from Munich to Slovenia in the 24 hours between midnight and midnight it’s only 1 day. You could go From Munich to Ljubljana with a 6 1/2 hour stop to explore Salzburg on one rail day.