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So, everyone has talked about how great Europe is for backpacking, etc. Can anyone share baaaad experiences on their trip? This way it’ll give me a heads up on things…

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Travel will always involve some degree of inconvenience, weather problems, unanticipated events, etc. Most of these can actually be opportunities to experience something new. I’ve been pretty lucky—the worst I can think of would be a couple of really bad hotels/pensions I’ve experienced and a mugger in Florence who tried to steal my wife’s purse. The rest would be classified as inconveniences—hangovers, delayed flights in steaming hot airports, missing trains and such.

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I couldn’t agree more with yostwl. Mishaps, such as blown tires and missed trains and lack of accomodations always end up being great adventures!

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Wish I could add some "baaad experiences" to this thread, but even the ones I didn’t particularily want to have happen to me at the time were experiences I wouldn’t trade for the world. Plus, I don’t know how they would give you a "heads up on things." If anything, they would limit your sense of adventure and strengthen your paranoia.

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Before I left for my trip, the thought of a night bus leaving me stranded in a random town or arriving at midnight in a crowded city with no place to stay terrified me. Both of those things happened on my trip, but they turned out to be no big deal. When you think about these things before you leave, they sound like crises, but when they actually happen, you usually just need to sit down and think for a bit. The coping skills you develop during your travels prepare you for the so-called disasters. I even continued a trip through South America after an extremely violent attempted robbery. I was paranoid as hell afterward (still am, as a matter of fact), but it took surprisingly little time to decide that I would keep traveling.

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A few random thoughts

- you find out that your accommodation is an absolute dive (be especially careful in the UK and Ireland about cheap places to stay).
– missed buses and trains, sometimes you had the wrong information and it can set you back half a day or so.
– going through some kind of illness on the road is not much fun.
– minor inconvenience, but it can be a sinking feeling when you turn up to a museum all keen… then one look at the lines and it’s obvious you’ll be waiting for 3 hours just to get in.

The good news is that all these inconveniences are quickly forgetten. The good experiences stick with you for many years.

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The only bad experience I have had is in Greece. When i arrived there, I found out that you are "not supposed" to flush any toilet paper down the toilets. I guess the pipes are very old. You are to dispose of it in a can next to the toilet. Of all the travel books and travel shows I have seen, no one mentioned that! It was odd at first, but then I got used to it.

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Blisters!
Try walking the same amount you will be walking, using the same shoes, for a week or so some time before departing.

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Yeah,[url=‘http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=14287&catid=10579&trx=PLST-0-SRCH&trxp1=10579&trxp2=14287&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-SRCH’]Moleskin[/url] will save your life when backpacking.

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I’d agree with Kahunna; even the experiences that seem bad at the time become great stories or just funny memories after a while – maybe I say this because nothing really awful’s ever happened. My friend getting mugged twice in Barcelona and the trying to rugby tackle another mugger now are great stories. I suppose the most annoying things was missing a bus to Moldova from Iasi, Romania, and giving up on the whole enterprise; I still have a few regrets.

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No matter what you deal with while away just remember that you are in Europe and don’t let anything get you down . Some of my best experiences came out of the worst.

My sisters favourite travel story of mine is how I ended up at a free clinic for drug addicts and prostitues in Amsterdam and had to bribe the doctor to write me a perscription for a UT infection. It wasn’t fun but in retrospect it was halarious.

I got my passport and rail pass stolen in Geneva and although I cried for about 5 hours straight I then got to the consulate and got a new one. A few days later because I couldn’t afford to go very far I ended up in Interlaken met a great guy and stayed with him for almost two weeks before heading home.

Everything works out

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My worst experiences have involved staying a hostels with school groups, especially in Germany.
The high school kids there don’t seem to have any discipline at all. The teachers just drop them all off at the hostel and then go and stay in a hotel somewhere. Meanwhile, the kids run riot, smoking and drinking and mucking around. A lot of sex seems to go on, too. (half their luck!)
I have been driven from 2 hostels because of this and, of course, there was no refund.None of the other guests got any sleep at all. The hostels did not abide by their own YHI rules. When I complained, the guy behind the desk said the kids brought in lots of money to the hostel. Judging by the amount of damage they did, they would need to.

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The language barrier can be tough. I’d bring some sort of phrase book for every country you are going to be in.

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Ah yes, the infamous German youth hostels. Out of curiosity Roger, where were you and how old were the kids?

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I had an interesting experience with young german soccer players( I think it was a school team) in Munich. My sister and I were sitting down enjoying a beer in the lounge and then very quickly about 12 or so guys surrounded us and at first they were just talking but soon the table was being pounded on and they were shouting" Table dance" My sister and I thankfully were not threatened by these 14/15 year olds and simply laughed until another Canadian who was fluent in German told them off and asked us if we wanted to join him at his table.

Ahh Munich…

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I had an interesting experience with young german soccer players( I think it was a school team) in Munich. My sister and I were sitting down enjoying a beer in the lounge and then very quickly about 12 or so guys surrounded us and at first they were just talking but soon the table was being pounded on and they were shouting" Table dance" My sister and I thankfully were not threatened by these 14/15 year olds and simply laughed until another Canadian who was fluent in German told them off and asked us if we wanted to join him at his table.

Ahh Munich…

AHHHHH, Canadiangirl I think I love you wanna take a trip to Spain?Atlanta?…………mi casa es su casa!

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Budget travel is always full of more hassle, but that adds to the adventure. My bad Europe experiences have involved

-getting caught in rain and being turned away by buses in London at bus stops because I didn’t realize that the stop I was at as a Request Stop. "Why the fuck are they going past me?" I kept wondering. ha.
-having $800 stolen in Paris, going to the hospital for drinking too much, losing my tongue ring
-having my wallet pickpocketed in London
-missing a connecting train and flight in Munich onto Paris because I was hungover and didn’t realize that there was more than one train station in Munich
-being stranded at a ghetto train station in Portugal for four hours and paying 50 euros for no reason
-being yelled at and groped by men in Italy
-running into ignorant American frat boys on virtually every train and cringing everytime I heard them say, "God I hate the French, they won’t speak English." One particularly eloquent bunch of American boys got my friend and I verbally abused "for being part of their group" on a night train. This was simply because we were seated NEXT to them.
-being forced into a leather jacket sales pitch in Florence
-running into severe phone problems and spending about $30 trying to call my boyfriend
-being locked out of a hostel
-showing up in Rome and being turned away from every hostel

Don’t ask me about my bad Asia or Australia experiences. They are much worse. My friends think it’s a miracle that I still travel.

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- Attempted robbery on a Brussels night train by four morroccon teenagers
– Robbed be a hooker in Madrid for $1000 euros
– Chased by a mob of people for snatching the purse of said hooker
– Detained by Dutch police in Amsterdam for punching out an overly aggressive coke dealer
– Another time in A’dam I was stabbed in the stomach by some foreigner crackhead
– Being fined $50 for having the wrong ticket on a Polish train (still think I was ripped off by the crooked conductor)
– Paying $40 for a glass of Baileys in Ibiza
– Spent the night in a Mexican jail

overall not really bad, I wouldn’t change anything if I could. You learn from the bad and turn it into something positive.

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Spain… sure I have only ever been to Barcelona so there is still so much for me to see!

Being locked out of a hostel was the most fun I ever had in Dubrovnik- a big old group of us ended up scaling the hostel wall and having to climb up a telephone pole to get back on to the terrace and then luckily the windo was open and we all managed to crawl inside."Unfortunately" there were 12 of us and only 8 beds…

Thanks to two friends ditching me in a dance club so they could hook up I ended up having a very sexually liberating lesbian experience. Nothing like Greece to bring out my lesbian tendancies!

Ahhh…Mykonos!

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Torontoeurope,
I was in Koln and Florence. The kids were about 15 y.o.

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agreed on the german teenager hostel problem. lights on and off all night, lots of noise, and avoiding piles of puke on the way to the bathroom part of the joys. Plus its scary how flirty the german teenage girls are?!!?

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Oh.my.gosh. You guys are making me scared to go traveling now. I leave in less than 2 weeks and staying in hostels. I do not want to be watching out for puke!!! Gross.

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i agree that moleskin can be a lifesaver.

as for myself: like an idiot, i left my backpack on a bus in naples.

fortunately, my italian was good enough to tell another bus drive what i had done. he called his supervisor. the supervisor drove out, picked my friend and me up, and took us back to the main station.

the bus driver, on whose bus i left the pack, arrived soon after. He emerged from his bus smiling with my pack in hand. i gave him the box of chocolate covered cherries and thanked him profusely.

the only bad experience i had was in southern spain with the gypsies. as far as i can tell from personal observation and experience, everything bad that is said about gypsies is true. watch out for them…they will steal you blind.

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Spain… sure I have only ever been to Barcelona so there is still so much for me to see!

Being locked out of a hostel was the most fun I ever had in Dubrovnik- a big old group of us ended up scaling the hostel wall and having to climb up a telephone pole to get back on to the terrace and then luckily the windo was open and we all managed to crawl inside."Unfortunately" there were 12 of us and only 8 beds…

Thanks to two friends ditching me in a dance club so they could hook up I ended up having a very sexually liberating lesbian experience. Nothing like Greece to bring out my lesbian tendancies!

Ahhh…Mykonos!

My GOD!!!!!!!!
UGGGHHHHH I barley have enough money for me but hell thats what good credits for(to ruin). So yeah girlie I think I’m in love you can ride my eurorail ANYTIME!! (Didnt mean for that to sound AS vulgar as it may!) I think EVERYONE is interested in a profile C-girl. I’m betting shy girl likes to let loose and sound "wild" with the "srangers". Or were you the one that stabbed Dangerousjohnny? If so then all deals are OFF!!!!
P.S. I could still use some advice on my ORIGINAL message you people are so narrow minded, focusing on everyone else except me.
C-girl’s "encounters" are always welcomed.

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Bad Europe experiences:

*Too many museums and other sites closed on Mondays.

*Vomiting from bad fish and chips in London.

*Train destinations not marked on Poland train platforms.

And that’s it…for Europe at least!

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I really don’t have that many, but you can’t backpack through Europe without at least a couple bad situations:

-Waking up in the middle of the night to find an escaped mental patient watch me sleep in Luxembourg
-Waking up in the middle of the night to find some guy trying to get into bed next to me, thinking he was getting into his girlfriends bunk…in Luxembourg (I gotta say, I didn’t get the best sleep in Luxembourg)
-Arriving into Munich around 7pm in the summer on a Friday night not aware that it’s a holiday weekend AND the Rolling Stones are in town…with no hostel reservations.
-Forgetting my purse at an internet cafe and realizing it an hour later
-Losing my moneybelt in Glasgow with all my cash, credit cards, passport, airline tickets, EVERYTHING

Don’t be scared Fresa4mi, it all works out in the end. This is the stuff that makes it all worthwhile.

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I will tell you that I LOVED my 6 months in Europe. I had one major bad experience and I but it didnt stop me and it shouldnt stop you! I was stabbed on a Frech Alps train just outside of Chamiox for a 10 train ticket. The guy I was sitting next to had no ticket and no money. I didnt have any money to give him when the conductor came around to check tickets and he sliced me with a knife! I didnt speak French well enough to know what he was asking for in the first place. But I was taken to a doctor and stiched up and back on the train the next morning without any problems!! Dont let one bad thing stop you!

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Hello. In general, I’ve only had minor inconveniences (missing a train, accidentally missing a stop, having to walk a long way in the rain with nowhere to take shelter, etc.), but I did have one icky hostel experience at the White Tulip in Amsterdam…I went to use the shower and there was a guy standing in the middle of the bathroom just "finishing" with himself and he looked at me, winked, and started walking toward me…I screamed and ran and he was subsequently kicked out (2 other females had walked in during the ‘beginning’ of his act and gone down to complain…the manager was already on his way)…not to mention he looked to be in his 50s…

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debt- what was your original question? Oh and I am most definately not shy…just reminising and getting excited about my next trip this summer.

brinna- I can’t beleive you were stabbed! Holy shit Batman!

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Brinaa-what happened to the guy who did that to you?

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debt- what was your original question? Oh and I am most definately not shy…just reminising and getting excited about my next trip this summer.

Oh I don’t remember something about a 14 day trip to Rome, Florence, Barcelona,Andalucia(?), Madrid(???????????????)not twice in the same year surely. (SEP) And all the good stuff that goes along with it.

And yeah IM getting EXCITED thinking about your next trip!!!!!!

P.S. I’m a computer moron so how do I post w/o always having the quote show? Also how the hell do I use the bold and italics???? Laugh later help now.

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Will never forget staying in Barcelona this feb and being completely scared out of my t*ts by this guy who was looking after the loft apartment I was staying in. The night before 4 fellow travellers had a seance, which bores me and I was a party pooper and asked them to stop as I felt uncomfortable. The next day they checked out and I was left alone to spend the next 2 nights with this custodian guy ( a friend of the owner who was away in Argentina). That night I returned back and told him waht had happened the night before. He got all weird and told me he could communicate with the spirit world and that we were safe, but that there had been some spirits present but they had left with the other travellers!!! He then got all spiritual with me and said he could take me back into my past lives to show me why I was emotionally ill, (he said he knew me better than I thought), but actually he knew nothing about me at all!!!! I told him he was scaring me and to be quiet and then I went to sleep, (he had a bunk bed near me which was just great!!!). At 5 in the morning he wakes me by sitting on the end of my bunkbed and telling me he is frightened because there are ghosts in the room with us and they tried to hurt him in his bed. He said we were in danger and that we were not safe. I got up, packed my backpack and told him he could take me to another hostel up the road that the owner of the loft apartment owned as I knew this guy was a nutter and I was not going to be around him any longer, and I knew there were other people staying there. I left at 5.30am scared out of my brains!!

I have travelled alot, and have never been so piss#d off ever. Anyway all in a days travel right!!!

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debt- what was your original question? Oh and I am most definately not shy…just reminising and getting excited about my next trip this summer.

Oh I don’t remember something about a 14 day trip to Rome, Florence, Barcelona,Andalucia(?), Madrid(???????????????)not twice in the same year surely. (SEP) And all the good stuff that goes along with it.

And yeah IM getting EXCITED thinking about your next trip!!!!!!

P.S. I’m a computer moron so how do I post w/o always having the quote show? Also how the hell do I use the bold and italics???? Laugh later help now.

Never mind figured it out!

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I just arrived from a 10-week backpacking trip to Europe this afternoon and had a fantastic experience. Since inconveniences and problems arise in any trip, here are my "bad" experiences in Europe:

(1) EasyJet lost my backpack from London to Madrid but found it and returned it to me 3 days later. It was really inconvenient and made me really worried whether I would see it again or not.

(2) My feet both ached to the point where I was limping when I walked (though thankfully, it did not happen to both feet at once) within the first couple of weeks of travel. It was due to swollen capillaries in my feet.

(3) Having blisters on my feet although I would not really consider that as an inconvenience compared to the others I have experienced.

(4) I was pickpocketted in Rome (happened last week) at the Termini metro station. Thankfully, the only thing they got was my ISIC card and my HI Welcome Stamp card. I separated my daily spending money from those documents and my credit and debit cards together with my passport and other important documents where in my money belt. But you know what pissed me off the most? There were actually passengers on the train who saw it while it was happening and they did not do anything about it.

(5) My daypack was almost stolen from me in Amsterdam. Yeah, I should have at least put my foot in one of the shoulder straps.

(6) This was pretty stupid thing to do but I thought it would be safe to put my money belt under my pillow when I slept. I was sleeping on top of a bunk bed and it fell to the bed bellow. I was panicking when I woke up and it is a good thing the guy below me was a really nice guy. He did not run away with it. Never do that by the way.

(7) I don’t know if I am assuming too much and quickly pointing to racism (I’m not white), but there was this time in this small German town where I wasn’t let in at a supermarket when it was clear that there were still customers inside (therefore, open). Plus, I don’t think I’ll forget this look this 10-year old Italian girl in the Cinque Terre (in Vernazza) gave me while I was sitting down. She looked totally angry while her parents and siblings made glances and told her not to look back.

I did not really have any bad experience on trains or hostels. Inter-City travel went really smoothly for me. Anyway, despite these experiences, I had an amazing time! Thanks to everyone in this board who gave me some useful information before and during my trip.

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I left my stuffed frog, Jethro in Slovakia. I was really sad and the boy I was with just kept making jokes.

My sister and I got into a crazy brawl ( i swear it was her fault ). She took my debit card and took money out of an ATM with it ( she eventually paid me back but at the time I was really pissed ). She socked me in the head! And she took my passport hostage for a bit! Needless to say, I stopped travelling with her after that. I headed East with two boys I met in Vienna. I’m really laid back, I should have found a laid back travel companion.

I had a joint left over when leaving Amsterdam. I didn’t realize it until I was on the bus to Prague. My sister freaked me out saying border guards could check and I could get in huge trouble. The thought of being busted for anything in a foreign country freaks me out abit. I didn’t think anything would happen, but just in case. Anyway, I decided to flush it down the toilet. I went into the bathroom but couldn’t stand wasting the joint so I ATE IT. I swallowed it with water. I don’t know what I was thinking, I’m an idiot. It pretty much just made me feel like I was going to puke for the next 4 or 5 hours.

The worst hangover ever and needed to catch an early morning bus from Cesky to Vienna. I had over 20 tall shots of Jeigermeister and don’t drink very often, and I didn’t puke. I have a fear of throwing up in public. The whole bus ride I was convinced I was going to hurl.

It was a mixture of bad and funny. I had to track down a morning after pill in Prague. The girl at the hostel thought we were asking about an illegal drug and said we could probably find it in the clubs. The pill made me really over emotional, just for a couple of hours. One example, we were in a bookshop and I saw a book on Hawaii and was like "It’s really beautiful. I want to go back there". The boy I was with was like "I’m sure you will sometime" and I said "I want to go right now though" and started crying. It was really weird.

This is going to sound pretty lame but as…I think it’s Sam Adams that says it, drink responsibly. I got very, very drunk. I think something may have been put into my drink though as well. Anyway, things turned out a bit bad. I don’t really want to get into it. But you know, unconscious girl, it’s not hard to figure out. It could happen anywhere but at home if I were drinking I’d most likely be with friends. I was hanging out with some boy I’d just met in the hostel.

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Bad experiences… I left my mobile in a youth hostel in Plentzia in the Basque country so had to do an 8 hour round trip from Donostia to retrieve it. In Donostia I had the misfortune of having the bed next to this guy that kept coming onto me the whole time I was there. I didn’t want to embarrass him in front of his friends (I don’t think they even knew he was gay) so I left early. In Valencia I met this girl and while we were in the middle of a moment of passion on the beach someone crept up and stole my bag. I retrieved it afterwards luckily with my cards still in it and passport but my camera and mobile had gone which made the earlier round trip to retrieve it doubly annoying. Guess it added a whole new meaning to the phrase safe sex though

Italy: the Milano youth hostel was truly atrocious like a prison almost so that and the curfew that it had was really offputting. In Romania I got stuck in a village called Prejmer in Transylvania and had an uncomfortable situation with some of the locals who were continually begging me for money.

In Budapest I went out with these Irish girls that I’d met. Me and one of them were abusing each other in a jokey way but boozed up we started arguing and her friends piled in in support of her and were insulting me. I ended up walking off and having to stroll home alone. Bratislava an American guy I met and me ran into this anti-american chick and her friends and had to beat a retreat sharpish. (I’m not even American but still…)

Berlin, I was sharing a hostel room with 2 Swiss guys and staggered back in at 5am drunk locking the door. I woke up next day to hear one of them giving me a tall story about someone coming into the room during the night (through a locked door?!) and when I eventually got up badly hungover realised that I’d been robbed of 100 euros. I thought about waiting til they came back and confronting them about it but decided it was a waste of time. So I left the hostel and dumped some of their guidebooks and films into the river for revenge.

And then the best, I’d bought a small ceremonial dagger in Romania as a souvenir and after carrying it back across numerous borders I got stopped inside my own country (the UK) at the ferry terminal between Scotland and Northern Ireland and had it confiscated and had to talk my way out of not getting charged for having a dangerous weapon!!!

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It was my last day in London and I was getting ready to travel around the rest of the country by bus. So I went to the station to pick up tickets using a pass I had bought. The girl at the counter had no idea what it was and she called her boss. He argued with me and chose not to honour it so I had to go back to Heathrow. They gave me my tix instantly.

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I had an amazing trip in Mainland Europe this summer, and the only bad thing I can remember – that I laugh about now is –

1. We took an overnight bus from Budapest to Venice, a couple of hours after being on the bus, we drove into a bus garage (the type where they fix them!),people started getting off the bus for a ciggie and about 5 mechanics just stood there laughing loudly at the bus,the driver diddnt speak English and I dont speak any Hungarian so it took a while before we found out exactly what was going on!
We then drove into a small town, all jumped off the bus and waited for another bus! I was hungry and we diddnt have any water, we diddnt have any Forints so we couldnt buy anything!
When we finally got to the Austrian border we were there almost 2 hours! They were SO thorough, and loads of people were turfed off the bus to be checked.
A short time after leaving the border, we drove high into the mountains, snow was on the ground and the roads were narrow, it was pitch dark and the driver was speeding so much (to try and make up time I guess!), all of a sudden there was an almighty skid and the bus hurled onto the otherside of the road, everyone was screaming! He had almost hit an oncoming car – because our bus was on the wrong side of the road!
The driver continued flying through Austria and skidded on the road numerous times! Needless to say I could not sleep a wink that night, and an Italian guy sitting across the aisle from me just kept covering his face in horror whilst leaning forward watching the driver all night! and waving his arms in the air at me!

We finally arrived into Venice, and first stop was the atm, It was 150 euro short from what I thought I would be able to withdraw!
We got lost looking for the hostel and when we arrived the hostel had a lockout and I was desperate for a shower….but had to wait until 4pm,I was the smelliest girl in Italy that day!

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Travel can be an emotional rollar-coaster. You’re away from home, sleep-deprived, subsisting on alcohol and cheese and crackers, walking in the hot sun, tired, thirsty, sometimes lonely… there are always those bad days when you get into a bad mood and miss home.

But in retrospect on trips the good far outweighs the bad. After coming home all you can remember are the good times anyway. So don’t let any of these posts scare ya from travelling.

Besides, my "bad experiences" are the best stories I think. Like the drunk guy I met in a Mykonos club. Or the kids who tried to pickpocket us on the Metro in Paris. Or getting sick in Rome and then having to drive around Corfu at night looking for an open pharmacy to buy antibiotics (which I discovered are sold OTC in Greece.) Or falling and skinning my knees in Haifa while I tried to dive to retrieve my sunglasses before a taxi ran over them, while wearing my backpack.

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A lot of the usual stuff about lost luggage( which is frightening for your budget when you have to think of buying new clothes and underwear and necessities for a long trip.)
Never been stabbed or anything horrible like previous posts, but I did have a guy slip something into my drink while i was in England. Not a good feeling to not remember a blasted thing-thank god one of my friends was watching over and took me home ok. Nothing happened.
Just be aware of your surroundings at all times!!!