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ALSO in reply to my own post
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where can you live while your working for an extended period in the U.k.?
 
i imagine living in a hostel would be the most economical, but i’m not really sure that it would be the most practical?
 
any ideas anyone?

good question….any answers???

Kirsty (a poster here) has been living and working in England (London) for what seems like forever.
But is she Canadian rather an Aussie? Can’t remember.

You could try asking your “little birdy”, and/or googling for more information.  It would help us give you more detail information if you do a some research first.  There are a lot of work visas available, which one you might qualify for, only you can say.  But I am GUESSING you meant the working holiday program which you can find info here:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Holiday_Program
 

 
Getting around what?  Would love to help answer, but we ain’t psychics. 
 
Ireland & the UK are different countries, therefore they have different rules for their working holiday programs.
 
Living in hostels are NOT economical if you plan to stay in a city for a while.   Not to mention alot of hostels have restrictions on how long you can stay.
 
You are better off in a sublet, room share situation.  In the major cities this is easily done, you could probably find an apartment to share at hostels and/or local expat hangouts. 

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really don’t appreciate the attitude apyf
 

obviously when i was referring to a working visa i was referring to was   holiday working visa….
getting around IT…the IT was in reference to getting around the perceived problem of only being able to receive one working holiday visa in your life which was said before.
i wouldn’t trust wikipedia as far as i could throw it, i didn’t even bother clicking on the link[/ol]
maybe i was unclear on certain other aspects of the question so i do apologize for that.
 
in regards to Scotland, Ireland, Wales i was enquiring as to whether it would be a good idea to get a working holiday visa for these countries instead of England. As a working holiday visa for England may be better reserved for when i start my career.
 
also I did find some info about the working holiday visa
http://www.workingholidayguru.com/directory/directory.php/United_Kingdom/.1._Visa_Information/.1._Visa_Information.htm
“You must not have previously had a working holiday visa for the United Kingdom” to be eligible for a working holiday visa
 
that was all i got and was unsure if this was a limitation for a period of time or life
and i wanted to hear what you guys had to say unbiased of what i found.
 
finally thank you for the info about the subletting etc.
 
peace.
 

Mal,

apyf was just trying to help you with a little humor; not attitude. 

I will give you attitude. []

My suggestion is that you teach yourself a little geography first, before snapping at experienced travelers.  Scotland, Wales, England, and Northern Ireland are all part of the same country.  That country is called UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND or simply BRITAIN or UK.  Whether you want to work in England, Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland, you will need a BRITISH VISA.  You may want to inquire at your nearest BRITISH CONSULATE about agreements between Britain and Australia for young people on working holidays.  I think that Britain and Australia have such a deal where they give each other’s young citizens working holiday visas hassle-free, but I won’t do the Google search for you.

Now, if you want to work in Ireland, then you would need to consult your nearest consulate for the Republic of Ireland, unless you want to live/work in Northern Ireland.  The island of Ireland is divided into: Northern Ireland which is part of the UK and takes up the northern fifth of the island and the Republic of Ireland- which is a sovereign nation, and takes up the remainder four fifths of the island. 

Please take a look at a map.

And yes, Wikipedia actually IS reliable, provided that you are smart enough to sort through the information, and that you know how to look up the cited sources to confirm the validity of information.  And on subjective matters, Wikipedia is actually much better than Brittanica.

luv_the_beach, makes an excellent point. Mal, if you can’t be bother to get basic information correct, you will have a VERY hard time relocating to another country.  Getting the VISA is the easiest part. 
 
You think I was giving you attitude, wait till you have dealt with another country’s bureaucracy once you are there.
 
The experience is well worth it, but it is NOT easy. 
 
Wikipedia is as reliable as any internet forum (including this one), since information are user submitted.  It’s probably more up to date and accurate then any privately run website.
 
The only RELIABLE source of information on the internet regarding things such as visas are from the government from which you wish obtain the visa.  And all your questions could be answered by visiting their OFFICAL website, which the wikipedia  page provide a link for.  That is why long time members of this board always tell newbies “CHECK WITH THE CONSULATE/EMBASSY” for accurate and up to date information. 
 
There is no way around “it”.  The working holiday visa is one time, has a time and age limit.
 
Using it for starting a career, depends largely in the industry.  It might get you foot in the door, but due to the temporary nature of your status, some employers might not give you the work experience and pay you are seeking (especially if you are just starting out in that career path).  If you are lucky to find a good employer, you can get them to sponsor you for a work visa when the working holiday visa expires.

ummmm…
ok
 
sorry apyf
 
i did read what you said again and i can see that it was written out of humour rather than being insulting
 
although in my defence, depending on how you read it, it can very much be read as snappy and insulting. probably one of those situations where i wouldn’t have made the mistake if it was an actualy face to face conversation, instead of a written comment that can be given different ‘voices’ as people read it back to themselves.
 
anywho, all water under the bridge?
 
and thanks for all the help, really.
 
also i still don’t trust wikipedia… sorry but i just don’t for relatively important info
but i will check the links, good idea
 
thanks
peace.
 
 

yes it is correct you can only get one UK visa (england, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales), you can also get an Irish Republic one, you can do both one after the other, the kicker is you have to apply for both from your country of residence. I’m also sure you can get one year working holiday visas for france, holland, sweden and some others, well you can if you are a kiwi. The UK is for 2 years or 4 if you have patriality, Ireland is 1 as are the others, if you have an EU passport you can stay as long as you like.

Now when it comes to living in the UK, I’m pretty sure you will want to go to London, if you want to live with fellow antipodeans there are heaps of places for you to live, mainly in the Northwest suburbs of Kilburn, Golders Green, Willesden, Brent cross, Finchley, Wembley, plus Shepherds Bush and Acton,……. the best ways of finding them is from free newspapers targeted to kiwis and aussies, these are the southern cross, the UK NZ news and TNT magazine, all are weekly, you can find them outside most big innercity tube stations and at most hostels.
 
Most of the house will have anywhere from 4 to 20 people living in them, you pay about £60 per week, this generally covers power and gas, some even provide tea and coffee. If you want to pay a little more you can get a single room, these are always hard to get, people usually start in a 4 person room then move up to the single.
 
That’s pretty much how it worked when I lived in London in the late 90’s and for several of my friends who have returned in the last 5 or so years.

Check into EU rules for immigration and visa and such….Ireland falls under this category and the UK (England, Wales, N. Ireland and Scotland).

I posted the below posting here http://www.eurotrip.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=120440
 
 
“
[=“times new roman”]Yes you can legally work in the UK.

I have done the same as you are getting ready to do.  I lived in stirling scotland, and worked at a Hilton in Dublane as a cook.  I did this without a UK work visa.  When you go through customs in the UK they will ask you if you plan to work.  The answer is no. That doesn’t mean you can’t work in the country and get a tax refund, as I did. The legal loophole is to classify your work as a school related educational internship. I obtained a tax id number at the local “IRS” office.  I believe they call it the Inland Revenue Cabinet or something to that nature. The UK government took out taxes and money for national healthcare.  I did hapen to go to the doctor, which cost nothing out of pocket.  Before I returned to the States I obtained a certain form at the “IRS” office and filled it out for a tax refund.  I was able to recover a large majority of the taxes withheld for I was not a citizen.  Also they were very helpful with filling out the form. The  guy practically filled it out for me. So the answer is yes, you can work in the UK. hope this helps

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