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Eurail pass plus pay for reservations??
Tue, 04/27/2010 - 23:44
I have my trip all planned and have started looking at transport costs. I looked up individual ticket prices for the 6 trips I need train tickets for and it is about $120 more than the cost of a 5 country, 6 day flexi pass. That makes it seem like the pass is cheaper, but then it seems you have to pay a reservation fee for each trip on top of the pass which can be between $25 and $60 per trip, is this true? Should i go with individual tickets then?
I am leaving from Knoxville, TN with $3500 for 46 days
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Most reservations are NOT that much. Usually they are around 3-5 euros (5-7 USD), on like the TGV in France, etc., sometimes 10 euros (Eurostar Italia) and occasionally more on private trains like the Thalys (ours were 13 euros each way). These are all HIGH-SPEED trains, and are usually the only ones which require reservations (the regional, slower trains do not. and the high speed ICE trains in Germany only recommend reservations, they are not required.)
This is not including night train reservations which are typically around 5-9 euros for a reclining seat, and 25-30 euros for a couchette bed. This is obviously different from a regular train, thus requiring a supplement.
I think the only trains which might have higher reservation fees than this are like, the hotel trains that go between Spain and Paris or Milan. Those are pretty expensive even with a rail pass. Those can be avoided, however.
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2) Where did you price the tickets? If you used a travel agency site, like the ones that sell railpasses, you will get “global” pricing — 30 to 35% more than you’d pay at the station or from the individual national rail company websites. Are you comparing prices that include a reservation to the pass, or the base fare?
3) Most of the specials are only available on-line and are non-refundable tickets that must be purchased in advance. Are you so sure of the exact dates and times that you want to do that to save a few bucks?
Kayling05: Thank you, I am glad to hear the reservation fee is much less than I thought and that not all trains require them.
Oldlady: Thank you for the explanation. I was using raileurope.com to compare prices, do sites like that really have a 30-35% mark-up? They were recommended as best price for eurail passes.
When I checked prices for the point to point tickets I am not sure if the price included a reservation, I guess I just assumed it did if I was booking looking a a specific train.
I think I am leaning toward a pass now because my itinerary is pretty set and my travel is mostly from big city to big city and country to country. I was thinking that for my itinerary that I would just do point to point tickets in Italy, then get a Eurail East Pass to cover my travel in Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, and Austria. Then I would get a 4 country flex pass to cover getting from austria to germany, to netherlands, and to france.
One question I have is, if I am traveling to (or from) a country that I have a pass for to a country that I don’t have a pass for, how does that work? For example, I will end my time in Italy in Venice. From there I will need to get to Budapest. If I have an East Past which covers Hungary will I be able to board the train with the pass (or with a discount) since I am going to a country where I have a pass?
Any suggestions on passes for my itinerary would be appreciated!
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Just to clarify on Ol’s point, she was talking about point-to-point tickets. There’s no mark up for eurail prices as you can only buy them from select agencies and not at stations in Europe.
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