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Hello
I am flying to Dublin in April and just wanted to ask a few things about transportation.
It’s a bit long, so sorry in advance
First I’m going to Dublin, after that i am going to take a ferry to england-London.
from england a ferry to Netherlands- Amsterdam, and from there a train/bus to Munich and then Berlin.
from Berlin i am planning to going on another ferry to Sweden, and then a train/bus to Stockholm, and from there again a train/bus to Oslo in Norway.
what i am asking is what is the best way to get around? is it a ferry as i said or maybe I should fly to Amsterdam (i am guessing it would be a cheap flight) and sam for Berlin-Sweden)
Also, what is that pass for a train through Europe I’ve heard of? is it any good? should I purchase one? in/through which countries can I use it?
So, after this very long “question”, I guess is can sum it up to: how should I get around through these countries I mentioned.
By the way, I have around 4000 EUROS. is it enough to that kind of a trip (it will take around a month).
Thank you in advance.

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Sorry, in advance, that I don’t have time to answer this very well right now. I will get back to it tonight.

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First I’m going to Dublin, after that i am going to take a ferry to england-London.
from england a ferry to Netherlands- Amsterdam
Why ferry? Fly from Dublin to London and take Eurostar, the chunnel train to Amsterdam.

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Thanks for the comment.
I have heard that train is quite expansive…
And how much would a flight from Dublin to London cost?

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Flying from Dublin to London will probably be cheaper than commuter train + ferry + train or bus. For London to Amsterdam, look for low fare specials at www.eurostar.com Flying would be my second choice for London/Amsterdam. I would not spend the entire day doing train or bus, ferry, train or bus unless there was no way to avoid it — and it’s usually as expensive as a special on Eurostar or a cheap flight.

Your trip involves some very long treks. Check schedules for anywhere in Europe on the Germany national rail company website: http://reiseauskunft… I do not believe the Berlin/Stockholm route necessarily requires a ferry any more, but it is sill a very long trek. I would look for a flight for this. Amsterdam/Munich is also a long haul. Train is probably best for Stockholm to Oslo. From there, I’d look into the “Norway in a Nutshell” (google the phrase) program to Bergen by bus/train/steamer.

I’m not sure whether a railpass would save money for this or not. It depends on what you find for cheap flights. A pass that covers Benelux, Germany, Sweden, Norway and maybe Denmark, as recommended in the trip planner may save some money. Try pricing the tickets on the individual national rail company websites. The links are here: http://www.eurotrip….

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Wow, thanks a lot…
I don’t really know how much “travel time” is between those cities so I hope it’ll be alright…
To conclude I’d say you recommend flights more than ferries and buses…
Well, Thanks a lot I will look into these sites…

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You can look for cheap flights here: http://www.skyscanne… I see Dublin to London as low as $44 but when you decide which airline check their additional fees (for checking a bag, carrying on a bag, using a credit card, checking in, etc.). Like oldlady, I’d much prefer the Eurostar to Amsterdam. It should at least be close in price to a flight (can be cheaper if you can get a special train fare), and will save the hassle of getting to and from airports. If you decide on the Eurostar I would book the ticket as soon as possible, and you may want to consider their option of choosing “any Dutch station” if you want to save money (read about it on the Eurostar website when you enter your itinerary).

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Alright…
Hmm, the Eurostar is basically a train that goes through some european cities.
But, between, let’s just say, amsterdam and munich or munich to berlin, should I take a regular bus or train?
and as for the ride from berlin to sweden, should take a plain for that?

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Eurostar normally refers to the train that goes under the English channel and connects London or Ashford, England to Paris, Brussels or Lille. Some routes that continue to other major Northern European cities like Amsterdam or Koln are also sold on the eurostar.com site as a single Eurostar ticket. The Italian national rail company also uses the term Eurostar to refer to it’s fanciest trains. That’s sometimes referred to as EurostarItalia to avoid confusion.

For Amsterdam to Munich and Munich to Berlin, train would be my preference. Amsterdam Munich is a fairly long trek. As I mentioned in my earlier post you can look up schedules for anywhere in Europe (including the Eurostar schedules) on the German national rail company website: http://reiseauskunft… You may want to look for a flight for that. For Berlin to Sweden it depends on what you find for cheap flights on the day you want to travel. Use our “cheap flights” forum for help with that. I would probably fly or change the itinerary rather than take the long train ride, but you have to decide based on the cost and time involved for your specific trip and your travel preferences.

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I like to take a ferry because I like riding on boats and watching waves, and they have a lot of space for you, but they are deadly slow, and the terminals are sometimes not as convenient as, for example, train stations, which are almost always right downtown. So if you don’t get seasick and have a lot of time, pick a ferry.

I don’t like flying within Europe because all the discount airlines have varying rules about fees, and some people find themselves paying three times as much for their unconforming luggage as they do for their tickets. Also, planes are an unpleasant ride unless you can afford front cabin seats, and the airports are never near the city center. So you pay more to get to and from the airport, and when you count that time, and security screening time, and tarmac sitting time, a flight often does not save you much time, if any.

I love trains, as they take you right downtown from right downtown, have far more space than an airplane, allow you to bring a picnic lunch, and are generally reasonably priced. Also, often with a train going from a to c through b, you can get off at b and see a little, then catch a later train (this is not true on all trains, however). You can also see some scenery from a train, but not from a plane.

Buses are another option, and often cost less, but they don’t give you the personal space you get on a train and are slower, but if you want to experience some small villages, the bus may be a good choice.

Since you have an itinerary, I would suggest you look at the various options for each leg with respect to cost and time (add a lot for flying, as they don’t report the ground costs, nor the ground time). Also consider whether you would be comfortable on a boat. With that information, it will become clear what your best options are.

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Cleveland’s ferry experience does not relate to mine for the Dublin-London run or London-Amsterdam (I did Brussels/London) AT ALL. The actually ferry ride is extremely fast, its’ the land portion of the trip and the logistics of 2 hour advance check-in and meshing train and ferry schedules that takes so long. The fast ferries travel so fast that you can not be on deck (some hover craft ferries don’t even have an open deck) because it is too cold, too windy and there’s too much spray. The interiors have all the ambiance of a jumbo jet that’s wide enough to have an on-board McDonalds and a duty-free shop.

Conversely, the ferries between Croatia and Italy and between Estonia and Finland were very pleasant. They were very much like cruise ships with nice public spaces, spacious restaurants and lounges, pleasant cabins and at least a bit of open deck space although they were still moving fast enough that being on-deck was not really comfortable.