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A couple of friends and I want to go on the cliché trip to Europe after graduate high school next summer. We’ll be a group of 4 girls, all 18 (one 17 until halfway through the trip, but I don’t think that should be too much of an issue) and we want to visit 8 cities (Rome, Florence, Barcelona, Madrid, Nice, Paris, Amsterdam, and London) for 1 month and 1 week. We realize that’s not the largest amount of time, but we’re working with what we have. We’ve all visited Europe before with our families, study abroad programs, teen summer tours, or all of the above. We just want this trip to be a taste of our favorite cities before we head off to college.

This is what we have so far: http://www.eurotrip….
Fly from NYC to Rome->Florence->Nice->Barcelona->Madrid->Paris->Amsterdam->London->fly back home to NYC.

I’m not sure what the exact dates for this trip should be – I’ve given one week to both Paris and London, 5 days to Madrid and Barcelona, 4 for Nice and Rome, and 2 in Amsterdam and Florence. Should I take a few days away from Paris or London and add it to any other cities? Also what are some good places to check out – we’re interested in cheap food (with occasional splurges), nightlife, and unique events/traditions/holidays we might have the fortune to encounter in any of these countries (for instance, we definitely want to be in either Nice or Paris for Bastille Day.) Also what would be the best means of transportation between these cities (this route seems the most logical to me, but if anyone has a better idea please share!)

Thank you so much!

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Also, we were super interested in Gierthoon, the small town in the Netherlands with no roads, only water. I was devastated to see it was not only super far from Amsterdam, but every other city we plan on visiting. Does anyone know of quick/cheap transportation between the two cities? If not, it’s no big deal.

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No place in the Netherlands can be “so far” from Amsterdam…
Amsterdam to Gierthoorn: train to Steenwijk (1 hour 45 minutes, 2 trains per hour to choose from) bus 249 (?? Check #) to Gierthoorn (about 15 minutes, but I don’t know how long between buses). I’d think you could bike from Steenwijk in 1/2 hour???

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With only two days in Amsterdam though, is a day trip to Gierthoon worth it? I might save it for my next trip to Europe.

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There are certainly 2 full days worth of things to see and do in Amsterdam without a side trip that’s going to shoot an entire day. However, with the exception of Nice and Florence, which are big cities, your entire trip is megacities. You’ll have to decide based on what seeing a couple of tourist attractions and experiencing a little more of Amsterdam is worth compared to the interesting experience of this side trip and seeing something that’s not another city. Your train ticket to Steenwijk would include a discount on a bike rental or a shared taxi to Gierthoorn which makes getting there a fairly interesting adventure in itself. You’ve got tons of time in several megacities. I’d cut some days there if you want to do this.

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how do you plan to transport once you get to Rome?

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No, with only two days in Amsterdam I would not take any day trips. You say the main interest about Gierthoon is that it’s built on water. So is Amsterdam. It’s full of canals.
I like that your itinerary is not rushed, but I would cut a few days in Paris and London and add them to Rome and Florence.

What I dislike about it:

  • Long train journeys
    Florence to Nice = 10 hours
    Nice to Barcelona = 12 hours
    Madrid to Paris = 14 hours
    I would drop Nice, since it’s a bit off the way, and take a budget flight to Barcelona.

  • It’s too heavy on cities.
    Wouldn’t you be interested in experiencing the European countryside? If so you have several options (the Swiss Alps, Tuscany…)

Perhaps the following itinerary might be of interest to you?

  1. London 5 days
  2. Amsterdam 3 days
  3. Bruges 2 days
  4. Paris 5 days
  5. Gimmelwald -Swiss Alps 3 days
  6. Florence 4 days (with a day trip to a Tuscan hill town)
  7. Rome 5 days
    budget flight to Barcelona
  8. Barcelona 4 days
  9. Madrid 4 days (with a day trip to Toledo)
    Fly to New York

Total 35 days

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I agree with Wanderer, 7 days in London is way too much, 4-5 days is good enough, I suggest at least one day trip into the English countryside (I personally recommend Bath). Also, to save time and a few bucks, get the London Pass www.londonpass.com/

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Thank you for the suggestions. It’s hard to plan this trip because all of us want something different. I’d like to visit family in Nice and re-visit Spain, another wants a majority of the time in France, a third is determined for Italy, and the fourth wants to spend a full week in London. We can probably scrape a couple of days off of London and add it to Amsterdam or just another city.

Transportation is a huge issue too, is there an easier + quicker way to travel through all these cities?

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Much of this will be fastest by train…

Within Italy, take the train
Italy to Nice, probably train, but check for cheap flight
Nice to Spain, probably fly, but you can do it by train
Spain to Paris, fly or take overnight train
Train for the rest unless you can’t find a reasonable fare on Eurostar, the channel train. Fly Amsterdam to London if it’s significantly cheaper.

I would limit flights and overnight trains to an average of 1 a week and no more than 2 in any 5 day period.

Your group of friends may need to split up. Plan 5 days in big cities and if you can’t fit in everything everyone wants to do, then split up for a day or so.

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whats the average cost of an over night train? and what do you consider a
“cheap” flight Price wise?

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Anything under 60 euros is good for me, I guess. I’ve seen Madrid to Barcelona for 40 euros but I’m unsure what Madrid to Paris or Florence to Nice would be. I’ve heard the train ride from Florence to Nice is very scenic though.

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