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Obama's Germany Speech
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The video.

What do you think?

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Populist drivel.

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I watched it live yesterday, I liked it pretty much. I mean, it’s not as if he is President yet, so its tone was proper.
Sure, it is rousing-but-vague speechifying, but there is obviously intelligence behind it, and Obama knows he eventually has to be ready to answer some hard questions about trade and many other issues.

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His speech matters nothing to me. Chances are he didn’t write it anyway. Instead of wooing Germans perhaps he should have put some time in with wounded troops and others stationed in Germany.

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yojimbo wrote:
His speech matters nothing to me. Chances are he didn’t write it anyway. Instead of wooing Germans perhaps he should have put some time in with wounded troops and others stationed in Germany.


The facts behind the “snubbed soldiers.”

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Really?! From the article Cil linked:
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July 24 entry to NBC News’ First Read blog, NBC News chief Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski and Pentagon producer Courtney Kube wrote:

A U.S. military official tells NBC News they were making preparations for Sen. Barack Obama to visit wounded troops at the Landstuhl Medical Center at Ramstein, Germany on Friday, but “for some reason the visit was called off.”

One military official who was working on the Obama visit said because political candidates are prohibited from using military installations as campaign backdrops, Obama’s representatives were told, “he could only bring two or three of his Senate staff member, no campaign officials or workers.” In addition, “Obama could not bring any media. Only military photographers would be permitted to record Obama’s visit.”

The official said “We didn’t know why” the request to visit the wounded troops was withdrawn. “He (Obama) was more than welcome. We were all ready for him.”

Sounds to me like he could have gone if he really wanted to. Going without cameras, and keeping it low-profile, would have been the right thing to do.

I don’t blame you for missing this, Cil. That “media matters” blog is a lot of “bla-bla-bla” — a lot of fluff to prop up their “smear” headline. Reading the facts, that they presented, I wouldn’t call it a “smear.” But I understand Media Matters and other quasi-political blogs—on both sides of the aisle—have to sensationalise their bias to increase their donor base.

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Actually, I didn’t miss it.
Just presenting the link for y’all.
You can interpret the facts as you like.
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Here’s another take on it from Factcheck.org

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Who knows what goes on in those politicians’ heads.

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Obama should have visited with them with or without his campaign officials, with or without the press, with or without his own photographers. There is simply no excuse for not meeting with them. Virtuallly every politician, Democrats and Republicans, have put time in with troops. Grave mistake on his part. In the past week he has taken a dip in the polls and I think this is a major reason why. Obama is a decent guy but he made a major political blunder and it looks worse, in my eyes, when he or members of his camp try to skate around the issue. He should have met with the troops…period.

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I think one of the most important jobs the next president has is to mend the foreign relations disaster caused by the current administration. In the last eight years we have slowly drifted away from our European allies. This is a start.

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mim wrote:
I think one of the most important jobs the next president has is to mend the foreign relations disaster caused by the current administration. In the last eight years we have slowly drifted away from our European allies. This is a start.

Yes.
And his approach was about cooperation, he spoke of a partnership. That is a far cry from what we’ve had during the regime of “you’re either with us or against us” Dubya.