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Updated itinerary! 6 week mother-daughter euro trip this summer!
Fri, 06/03/2011 - 12:48
DAY 1 London- Bruges = Eurostar (Arrive at night)
DAY 2 Bruges
DAY 3 Morning: Bruges- Brussels = 1 hour Afternoon: Brussels
DAY 4 Morning: Brussels
*START 10 days out of 22 days INTERRAIL PASS. *Night: Brussels- Berlin = 12 hour night train
DAY 5 Berlin
Day 6 Berlin – Daytrip to Sachsenhausen concentration camp
Day 7 Berlin
Day 8 Morning: Berlin-Warsaw = 5.5 hours Afternoon: Warsaw
DAY 9 Warsaw
DAY 10 Morning: Warsaw- Krakow = 2.5 hours Afternoon: Warsaw
DAY 11 Krakow – Auschwitz day trip
DAY 12 Krakow – Salt mines day trip
DAY 13 Krakow Night: Krakow – Prague = 10 hour night train
DAY 14 Prague
Day 15 Prague – Day trip to bone church in Kutna Hora
DAY 16 Prague
DAY 17 Prague- trip to Terezin concentration camp memorial sight?
DAY 18 Morning: Prague- Vienna = 4.5 hours Afternoon: Vienna
DAY 19 Vienna
DAY 20 Morning: Vienna- Budapest = 3 hours
DAY 21 Budapest
DAY 22 Daytime: Budapest Night: Budapest- Belgrade = 7.5 hours Night train
DAY 23 Belgrade
DAY 24 Daytime: Belgrade Night: Belgrade- Sarajevo = 9 hours Night train
*22 DAY PASS FINISHES
*
DAY 25 Sarajevo
DAY 26 Morning: Sarajevo – Mostar = 2.5 hours
DAY 27 Mostar
DAY 28 Mostar = Day trip (Neretva Rafting/ Kravica waterfalls or something)
DAY 29 Morning: Mostar – Split = 4.5 hours
DAY 30 Split
DAY 31 Split- Pescara = 7 hour SNAV ferry
DAY 32 Pescara
**ONE COUNTRY RAIL PASS 4 JOURNEYS
*
DAY 33 Pescara- Naples = Train 6 hours
DAY 34 Naples
DAY 35 Day trip from Naples (Pompeii, Mt Vesuvius?)
DAY 36 Naples- Rome = Train 2 hours Afternoon: Rome
DAY 37 Rome
DAY 38 Rome
DAY 39 Rome- Florence = Train 1.5 hours
DAY 40 Florence
DAY 41 Florence – Pisa day-trip
DAY 42 Florence – San gimignano or Siena day trip
DAY 43 Florence- Venice = Train 2 hours
DAY 44 Venice
DAY 45 Venice – Morning flight to STN
My main questions are:
1) Comments I have had have included swapping Vienna for Bratislava. Stick with Vienna? Swap from Bratislava? Time better spent elsewhere??
2) 3 concentration camps… too many!? Cut it down to one or two? If so, which one to cut.
3) Anyone done a day trip from Mostar? Possible to go to Kravica waterfalls as a day trip?
4) Split?? OR….. Dubrovnik? Or somewhere else. It will probably be time spent on the beach
5) The day trip from Florence to San gimignano or Siena day trip. Worth it, or an extra day on the Croatian coast?
This trip will be between 25th July and 7th September. These dates can’t change, but anything that happens in between can! Really appreciate everyone’s help, and any advice and comments you have about ANYTHING. Accommodation, transport, sights, itinerary, anything!
I am leaving from London and traveling for 45 days
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You’re going to spend way too much time in transit for my taste, so I’d definitely cut at least one of those concentration camps and consider cutting one of the Florence day trips to add time to someplace where you’ll just relax a little.
1. I think Bratislava is a lot friendlier, cheaper and more interesting than Vienna. They’re only about an hour apart by train or bus. Vienna is a better transportation hub. Given your fairly whirlwind travel style, I’d probably stay in Vienna for the transportation advantages and spend at least a day of the time in Bratislava. If budget is a concern, you can live better for less in Bratislava.
2. I would skip the concentration camp near Berlin, visit Auschwitz (including Birkenau) and then decide if you want to visit another.
What’s your reason for staying in Naples? Stop for a Pizza on your way back to Rome on your day trip to Pompeii.
My main questions are:
1) Comments I have had have included swapping Vienna for Bratislava. Stick with Vienna? Swap from Bratislava? Time better spent elsewhere??
Bratislava.
The first one was Dachau, which is near Munich. The largest, and the only one that was designed as industrial human slaughterhouse from the beginning, was Auschwitz. Cut Terezin, even though that city is built in an interesting ways (the Emperor Maria Theresia founded it as a fortress and military barracks, so that it looks like a fortress, it’s symmetrical etc. The Nazis turned this whole town into a concentration ghetto. It’s primary function was to serve as a transfer and sorting point on your way to death in Auschwitz or elsewhere. The overall atmosphere of the town is depressingly dull and boring until these days.
Anyway, the sights of war in Bosnia and Herzegovina will probably shake you more than WW2 history, because they happened in a modern world we remember. Add a day in Sarajevo, take it from Mostar, and visit the Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Was possible in 2009
Both are beautiful and expensive, probably Dubrovnik nicer, but these are beautiful historical port cities. If you want to sunbathe, swim and enjoy yourselves, then Split and a ferry to any of the nearby islands.
If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.
- No particular reason.. we wanted to see the major cities in Italy I guess, and I figured that was quite a popular one! Is there not a lot of point staying there then?
Bruges, Brussels, Berlin, Warsaw, Kraków, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Belgrade, Sarajevo, Mostar, Split, Pescara, Naples, Rome, Florence, Venice, London
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Do you mean they are both port cities and don’t have a beach then? Really we would like a couple of days on a nice beach somewhere. Would going to one of the islands be the best way to do this then?
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IMO, Naples pretty much has everything that’s bad about a mega-city (dirt, petty crime, noise, crowds) with very little of the good. Great Pizza and an archeological museum are all that come to mind.
So, if we wanted to see Pompeii and Mt. Vesuvius, you think it would be better to go there from Rome? Or to base ourselves in Naples just because its closer?
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Or Sorrento, because you could see Pompeii and Mt. Vesuvius on the coming from Rome, on the way to Sorrento, and then spend a few days exploring the Amalfi Coast, using Sorrento as a base. I definitely wouldn’t stay in Naples.
Madrid, Barcelona, Athens, Santorini, Rome, Sorrento, Florence, Cinque Terre, Nice, Lyon, Paris, Zagreb, Grabovac (Plitvice), Split, Dubrovnik, London
Ok, thank you I will look into Sorrento. It would be before going to Rome tho, as I’m working my way up Italy, before flying home from Venice!
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Oh, I didn’t make myself clear. Of course you can swim in the sea in Dubrovnik and Split, both of these cities have their city playas. It depends on your personal choice. Dubrovnik and Split are ancient Roman cities, lively, beautiful, modern, expensive, world-class. The islands are also very beautiful, but rural, more traditional, quieter, more Croatian, but not necessarily that much cheaper. Depends on your personal choice. Both options have a beach.
If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.
Thank you
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I had planned to get the night train from Brussels to Berlin? Now I cant find that it exists…. Does anybody know anything about getting from Brussels to Berlin!?
Thank youuu
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A direct train probably doesn’t. But there is a rather good connection using a sequence of high speed and sleeper trains. However, you won’t get much sleep and arrive to Berlin very early.
Leave Bruxelles Midi (in French, Brussels Noord in Dutch) at 19:28 using the Thalys No. 9453 to Köln Hbf, arrive 21:15. Leave Köln Hbf at 22:28 by a CityNightLine train No. 457, arrive Berlin Hbf at 4:28 AM the next day.
If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.
P.S. The Deutsche Bahn offer daytime specials for fast trains between Berlin and Brussels and back starting from €29 one way if you book way ahead. Check their website. But it still takes 7-8 hrs and usually one transfer. However, there should be a lot of cheap airliners flying to Berlin from either Brussels or Charleroi airports in Belgium. (Charleroi is about 80 min. ride from centre of Brussels by train and bus). If you find a cheap evening flight, you win.
If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.
If you can’t find a train route you like there’s an Easyjet flight on the 28th that leaves Brussels at 19:10 and arrives in Berlin at 20:35 on the 28th for $71.
I’d get that flight if I were you.
If you have any questions about Prague or Czech and Slovak republics, ask me.
If you only want to search train or bus connection within Czech&Slovakia and/or to neighboring countries, use www.cp.sk or www.idos.cz search engines. For domestic transport, they also show prices.
Just returned from Italy last week. San Gimigano is worth visiting just for the drive through the Tuscan countryside, but the actual town itself is worth maybe a stop for lunch and then move on to Siena
“I haven’t been everywhere, but it’s on my list”